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[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, to recap:

Someone pointed out that Republicans did January 6th, a violent attempt to seize control of the government by overturning the results of the election. You then gave examples of Democrats supposedly doing the same thing. I pointed out that none of the examples you gave were anything like January 6th. You then gave reasons why January 6th wasn't bad. I pointed out that none of those reasons changed the fact that it was a violent attempt by Republicans to seize control of the government by overturning the results of the election. You still have not provided an example of the Democrats doing the same thing.

Now you say, well, people from both parties do violence sometimes, so let's call it a draw. I appreciate the wisdom of making a strategic retreat, but no. You made bad arguments. Now you have to admit you are wrong one of two ways. You could just be explicit, come out and say it. More likely you'll do it implicitly, by changing the subject or not responding at all.

I’m not really keen to get into an argument about which party is responsible for more violence

I get it. I don't like getting into losing arguments either.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, someone said “yeah I remember when those crazy Democrats got a bunch of their voters together to storm the Capitol” and then I gave 3 examples of when they DID, in fact, do that.

Basically, the claim was that “Democrats would never…”, so that’s what I set out to disprove.

  • Did both Democrats and Republicans ever storm the Capitol? Yes they did
  • Did both Democrats and Republicans ever engage in violent protests that caused massive property damage and death? Yes they did

All you’re doing now is moving goalposts in order to make those events appear more reasonable when it was your side doing them, so you can continue vilify the other side for doing the same thing. Which means you are excusing political violence while simultaneously opposing it.

That’s not tenable position, you understand? It’s just wanting to have your cake and eat it, too.