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Hello, folks. Hoping I can get some opinions on my situation.

My 12-yo watches a lot of YouTube. It is mostly streaming personalities who have a lot to say on a variety of topics. I have either watched these videos with them, overheard them from another room, or looked some up from their history and viewed them myself.

I have problems with them and want to do something about it.

I care little about the topics being discussed; my child is allowed to be interested in their own things, even those separate from ours (their parents), and it's also reasonable for them to disagree with us. All of that is fine.

My problem is with how these streamers present their content:

  1. They do not provide critical scrutinization of the issues.
  2. They do not apply logical rationalization or reason to the stances they take.
  3. They do not cite sources of repute to justify their positions.
  4. They are needlessly hyperbolic.
  5. They examine no dissenting opinions.
  6. They present themselves as authorities on every topic with zero credentials to support that assertion.
  7. They succumb to, support, and repeat what is obviously propaganda.

To say nothing of the fact that the value the entertainment potential and viewership counts more than the content of their arguments.

I was raised allowed to moderate my own content because I was trusted to be intelligent and wise enough to critically select what I watched or read and learn from the mistakes I made if I consumed something negatively influential. I have tried to extend this same trust to my 12-yo, but their constant repetition of what they hear and their inability to form a cogent argument makes me feel like their YouTube viewing habits are teaching them to accept concepts at face-value simply because they are popular.

I don't feel it would be productive to start out-right blocking content and pundits because this would feel more hegemonic than educational. I'd rather increase the likelihood that they'd critique and dismiss the content than decrease the likelihood that they'd view it.

I would love to hear what others have to say about this situation.

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[โ€“] idyllic_optimism@lemmy.today 40 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I find starting a conversation with the kid when the opportunity presents itself organically and listen to what they think about the content / subject matter and bringing different perspectives to the subject can teach them critically thinking about what they're hearing.

The same goes for young adult books with questionable relationship examples. Making it a conversation, hearing what they think about certain aspects and bringing different perspectives to the subject works better than taking a stance against something they love.

We all love flawed stuff, we love them while (hopefully) separating wrongs from rights in our minds because we have some degree of critical thinking. We just need to teach/guide the kids the same way. It's ok to like something while still being able to point out the wrongs of that thing.

[โ€“] starlord@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This is really great advice. I have tried this. They're just at that point where they shrug or say "I don't know" at everything, never engaging in any conversation.

[โ€“] idyllic_optimism@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago

That's why I mentioned the "organically coming up in conversation" part. Keeping the didactic tone out of the conversation, finding a genuine interest in the topic ourselves usually important.

"I like how [internet personality] put it but I can't help but wish they also considered this aspect."

"I used to think like that at one point, but then I've come to know how it really worked in real life and that changed my view"

"Interesting point [the internet personality] made, though just last week I've heard of this news/story/experience of (a friend, relative, random stranger), that made me think that is only one side of the coin" etc...

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