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What is a ruin? We’re running off of “You know it when you see it” at the moment. Ruins should be non-functioning structures of some age, or their function reduced to tourism and the like.

Generally speaking, specific items from a ruin should go to !historyartifacts@lemmy.world

Illustrations of ruins (or their reconstructions) should go to !historyillustrations@lemmy.world

Photos of ruins back when they were functioning should go to !HistoryPorn@lemmy.world

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Built decades after slavery was abolished, actually seems out of place for its size and style.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you mean plantation era...? Because it doesn't seem like any plantation era house I've seen. More like a pretty standard Victorian, imo, which tracks for when it was built. I'm just a lay person, however, and certainly no architect, so I could be wrong.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're really going to sit there and tell me this is nothing like a southern antebellum style house?

That its spacious parlour and large number of rooms doesn't reminisce of a time of servitude in the USA?

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, yeah. It's just a different style altogether. Parlors and room number has nothing to do with what the house looks like and the architectural era it belongs to.

It would be more accurate to say that it smacks of the gilded age (a time of the greatest wealth disparity in our history) than of the civil war era, even though that still isn't quite right, as the Victorian era is its own thing outside of the Edwardian era.

The US has had more than one age of servitude beyond just the obvious slavery era, sorry to say. It's kind of our brand.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks pretty antebellum style to my eyes, at the very least antebellum-inspired. I mean, I say at the very least, but what I know about antebellum architecture is pretty limited to having seen them in passing in US Civil War books, lmao.

Less grandiose than most, but it's got that kind of forward-heavy look combined with obsessive symmetry and that weird Anglo-Classical fusion.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I would click through some of the examples in your wiki link and try and notice a few things that most of the antebellum houses have in common. They're usually defined by the their blocky shape and the large columns in front; very Greek-revival.

This house, however, has completely different details and layout. Beyond the fact that it's missing the telltale columns and imposing silhouette, the design is more intricate and a touch more delicate. The Victorians loved fine details, and were very 'extra' in that way.

But honestly, all of that aside, the biggest tell is just the date it was built. A different style was simply the fashion then compared to earlier in the century. Just like how mid century modern was it's own thing outside of WW2 era suburban homes, though they're similar.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe they liked the old slavery style?

"It's just a fact of life", you know.

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dumb question but what is slavery style? Like it seems like everyone else can immediately tell, but by looking at the house I personally don't know enough to be like "that house is a slave era house". Is it just the architectural style? Or is there a different tell? Thanks in advance I'm ignorant and dumb

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antebellum_architecture

It's a specific style dating back to the era of slavery. A lot of old plantation-type houses in the South have the style, and it's... grotesquely romanticized in some corners as a more 'rustic' time.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe they meant a more 'rusty' time, what with all the chains and manacles and whatnot.

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's cursed lol

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Got it makes sense! Thanks, this made some other things I've heard click into place.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Big parlour.

Large number of rooms.

Display of wealth and status in a rural area.

I feel like if you were going to own human beings then you would want to do it while living in an Antebellum Style home.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

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