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Ukraine is a proxy war against Russia.
Supporting Israel is the point, it's not a proxy.
They need Israel to control North Africa, the Arab Peninsula, and much of West Asia. They need Israel to control the movement of goods and people from Africa into Asia and Europe. They need Israel to control the Red Sea and help project power into the lower Mediterranean. They need Israel as their laboratory for surveillance technology and oppressive systems of control. Israel is the unsinkable aircraft carrier, the most valuable asset the US has. Israel is more important than most US states tbh
I mean Saudi Arabia also does all those things, most of them far better than Israel ever could due to geography, and at a far lower cost. If Isreal snapped out of existence tomorrow, between Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Greece European and North American power projection in the Middle East and North Africa remains almost entirely unchanged.
Honestly the military benefits of supporting Isreal while real are definitely not as important as the domestic political benefits to the US, which is to say that the conservatives like Isreal because it provides a nice place to deport all the Jews to while also maintaining precedent for an enthnostate with race based citizenship, and the Democrats like it because they get a lot of gifts, friends, and in their minds potential voters, all for doing exactly what the conservatives want them to do.
Israel has been a key USA asset for destabilizing the region from, at leat, the times of Kissinger as secretary of state and to stop socialist panarab projects like then ones of Nasser or the Ba'aths parties.
Yes, but itβs presence in the region being a destabilizing force is a very different thing to being primarily an unsinkable aircraft carrier as the commenter I responded to described it.
An unsinkable aircraft carrier is a destabilizing force, what are you talking about?
Politically, major outside military forces like aircraft carriers tend to be viewed at a stabilizing force in the local region, but more to the point Redrum and I were talking about Isrealβs primarily being useful politically rather than militarily to destabilize and break up leftist and Soviet groups in the region.
The presence of a Sword of Domacles hanging over the heads of every country in the region does have political uses, not just military ones.