That's fair, I don't live in America. I live in a country where I can vote for "spoiler" parties and it actually does take power away from center parties. The issue seems more generally relevant here.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately even proportional systems have proven to be vulnerable to this lately

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Sort of. Vulnerable in that its possible to get a small foothold sometimes. Ebb and flow.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

If a party is viable they strictly speaking aren't a spoiler. 3rd party wise in the US. 3rd party candidates in local elections are great. In my state there are plenty of offices Republicans run for uncontested. I would vote sight unseen for any non Republican aligned candidate running against them.

National elections....... 3rd parties running here can't help but be spoilers. First there's 50 separate sub elections they have to qualify for in the first place. Most don't even qualify for half that at best. So they've already lost. Then on the off chance they somehow won one.(never really happened in 250 years) There's the EC system and delegates. Some states are winner take all, some proportional. And while they're supposed to vote to represent the states population. Faithless electors are a thing. Meaning 3rd parties just lost harder.

Its something like a .00000001% chance with an over 6 sigma confidence rating. You have better odds of getting struck by lightning multiple times while dancing the Macarena.