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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ndlug.org/post/1064425

And Linux isn't minimal effort. It's an operating system that demands more of you than does the commercial offerings from Microsoft and Apple. Thus, it serves as a dojo for understanding computers better. With a sensei who keeps demanding you figure problems out on your own in order to learn and level up.

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That's why I'd love to see more developers take another look at Linux. Such that they may develop better proficiency in the basic katas of the internet. Such that they aren't scared to connect a computer to the internet without the cover of a cloud.

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[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I mean coding is difficult enough as it is, I wouldn't choose to use an OS that makes it even harder.

I use Linux because it makes my life easier. It has better support for development. Some of the other stuff is maybe not as easy or polished, but the support for dev tools and the ease of deploying to from local machines to servers that are also running Linux makes up for it.

If I wanted more effort I'd still be using Windows. It would force me to work on cross platform development and deployment. The idea that there's value in making things unnecessarily hard is just weird. I want Linux to be as simple as possible to use, so I can spend that effort on things that actually matter.

[–] Cyno@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I wonder what kind of support for development do you get? Honestly I've only had obstacles when I switched, for example the docker installation was much more complicated on linux than on windows+wsl. Even installing python was problematic because apparently 'upgrading it yourself can brick the system', at least if an older version comes with the OS?

And lastly it's the simple thing that pretty much all tools work on windows natively but on linux you have to find workarounds, which is definitely a problem when it comes to productivity.

So what are the benefits, what does linux have that windows doesn't in this context?

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

It really comes down to what you're used to. If you use Windows tools then you already know many of the workarounds for Windows and you don't know the tools that haven't been ported there.

For example, you know not to use Python directly, but that you have to install anaconda instead, or whatever the current problems with Python development on Windows are.

The big obvious thing that you can't get away from is that you have to do things differently if you have develop for two different OSs with a view to deploying on Linux.

In particular support for shell scripts is crap on Windows. I could learn powershell or there's workarounds using WSL and a bunch of other stuff that I don't need to care about, but I'd rather not bother.

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