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Hawaiian has barely any consonants, so k, k^h^, g, g^h^, q, t, d, ʈ, ... are all allophones no matter which language we are talking about? That's not how this works. It would work when talking about words loaned into Hawaiian but not when talking about another language altogether.
And allophones aren't necessarily difficult to distinguish. German has 2 versions of <ch> ([x] and [ç]) depending on the preceding vowel. Also we have quite a few realizations of /r/ (not as many of Dutch though) easy to tell apart and deduct roughly where someone is from. You're just using the word wrong.
I don't know where you got the impression that I said that if something is an allophone in one language it's an allophone in all languages. Jeez!
I think that this impression is mostly from the fact that your post doesn't make any reference to English (or another language lacking the distinction), so people are incorrectly associating what you said with Korean instead, and incorrectly assuming ignorance.
I don't think that people would misread you if the meme said
That said, I fully agree with you that people aren't spending enough time trying to understand each other here.
Ah, thanks for the info (from another comment) on Korean rendering some English /s/ as one or another consonant! It hints that English at least comes close to the tense-S in some situations.
Thank you! Good communication tips. Sometimes I try to broaden my language to let it apply to more situations but I think it can just end up sounding detached and confusing.