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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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here's the amazing Vibecamp essay where the rationalists talk about "microdosing" meth if they can't take the adderall to become a financial genius like Scoot promised them (app.simplenote.com)
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[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Of course I ignore your warnings and proceed to read this shit from the beginning.

And before you say, as many people I'm sure will, that language changes or evolves and so forth: shall I presume many of you have no objection to being called 'nazis' in the standard twitter-left definition? Shall I treat all drunk sex as 'rape' because kidnapper-rape and frat-sex have the commonality of reduced consent? Shall I treat your remarks about this-or-that group as 'hate speech', or 'violence', in the form of speech? Clearly, we have some sense by which concept creep exists; by which definitions can be stretched dishonestly. That is what you're doing, and you know what you're doing.

Cool. Cool. This is fun.

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I REALLY don't wanna rank rapes, but isn't frat rape an archetypal rape? It's unambiguously terrible to the point that the only defense the perpetrators can mount is that it didn't happen. This is like decrying the expansion of murder to include defenstration along side the more traditional bludgeoning and stabbing.

[–] rationalistmormons@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I REALLY don’t wanna rank rapes

However, rationalists do! paella recently did. She got over 5000 responses. https://aella.substack.com/p/the-rape-spectrum-survey-results (tw: rape obviously, paella, idk prolly other stuff i just looked at the graphic) (not fixing this autocorrect)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

there's no way you can make me click on that

[–] pja@awful.systems 11 points 2 months ago

I already wasn’t going to read this screed, but now I’m definitely not going to read it. Sheesh.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

shall I presume many of you have no objection to being called ‘nazis’ in the standard twitter-left definition

I didn't know there was a standardised definition, or that it was somehow political-side-specific. If I were to steelman this then this could be about a pedantic distinction between a fascist and a nazi?

Hey, you know what you can do if you feel bad about being called a nazi? STOP BEING A FUCKING NAZI.

Shall I treat all drunk sex as ‘rape’ because kidnapper-rape and frat-sex have the commonality of reduced consent

Yes. Yes you should. Hey, see, you understand this! Also consent either is or isn't, there's no "reduced consent".

Shall I treat your remarks about this-or-that group as ‘hate speech’, or ‘violence’, in the form of speech?

Emm, depends on the remarks? If they're hate remarks then ye dude, that's what the word means?

Clearly, we have some sense by which concept creep exists; by which definitions can be stretched dishonestly.

Ye, like how you would define "censorship" I'm sure