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[–] JVT038@feddit.nl 23 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Hmm, but why would a farmer provide food to people without getting anything in return? This is, assuming everyone is selfish, which is the core assumption of capitalism.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Because if the farmer doesn't, starving people will either die, or wise up and take the food by force. Usually the starving people aren't in the majority, so they work with sympathetic individuals who recognize that they might be next. So that the farmer has the resources to continue, the mob takes resources from those that have excess, by force. If the farmer is not motivated because they can't make big profit margins, then someone without the mental illness of greed will eventually replace the farmer.

[–] DingleBoone@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the only options for the farmer are let people starve or get raided, why would he choose to be a farmer then? Seems more likely he'd do something else or join the mob rather than become a farmer in the first place.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because if he doesn't farm he starves as well. The issue is that people doesn't think through the long term common good consequences of their actions, less so because they're selfish, but more so because people aren't designed to think that way.

[–] DingleBoone@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Because if he doesn't farm he starves as well.

Which is why I added that instead of being a farmer, he could just join the mob of people that would have raided him if he had been a farmer. Why aren't they all farming?

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