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[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I think the bigger issue is the Federal Reserve.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Not really. Not with the COVID inflation. Over the last few decades sure. But rent and food doubling was corporate greed. We have them on their investor calls bragging about it.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It seems there's plenty of culpability to go around.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

True, it goes back to what you are following.

It reminds me of:

"You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you."--Det. Lester Freamon

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 2 months ago

Absolutely! Thanks for the giggle, dear friend.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think the federal reserve is active outside the US. Also printing money was the cause of inflation when gold was backing the money, now the worth of money is only governed by what you can buy with it. Like you can double the amount in circulation but if no one raises prices there would be no inflation.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FED policies affect every currency on this planet as they are all backed by the usd.. the consumer price index was designed to under report inflation. The basket would be CHEAPER every year because of improvements in production if there was no inflation.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There are a handful of currencies backed by USD but most are not. I only know of Belize dollar, the Hong Kong dollar and the Dirham as backed by USD, as far as I know those are the only ones.

Do you think stores look at the inflation and raise their prices accordingly or do they raise their prices and inflation is calculated based on that? One of those is correct.

[–] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Bermudian dollar as well

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Stores don’t look at inflation, inflation makes the stuff they sell more expensive to buy, so they have to sell it for more money or make losses.

Fed policies like interest rates directly affect almost all countries because they have USD debt.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stores don’t look at inflation, inflation makes the stuff they sell more expensive to buy, so they have to sell it for more money or make losses.

Oh wow, stores must suddenly be buying their materials much cheaper recently when they realized they need to charge less, right?

Or did they just realize the market won't bear what they're charging, so they're lowing their prices to get more business and lower the margin on their sales?

Hint, it's the second one. Because stores are raising prices to increase profits, not to make up for increased ingredient costs.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Go look up net profit margins of retailers, they are going sideways.

[–] thejoker954@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thats because of how they define profits.

Every company wants ALL the money.

They make enough to pay all their bills and expand reasonably.

They are not happy with that.

Its always more more more.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Its always more more more.

Obviously, because the money is always worth less less less.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And yet they can afford to advertise they're dropping their prices 🤔

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So what makes the stuff stores buy more expensive? Like you can create a chain of price raising as far as you want but ultimately it's just someone deciding to raise prices and that creating inflation.

Again, only a handful of countries own US debt and I don't even know how US debt interest rates are going to connect to inflation in other countries. Like China and Japan are the largest debt holders and their inflation is vastly different.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nobody said US debt, it's USD debt, this is basic international economics knowledge.

Inflation is the loss of purchasing power of money, not somebody raising prices. Inflating the money supply leads to loss of purchasing power.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Inflating money only loses purchasing power if it's tied to the value of something else as I originally said. That was literally my original point.

And what do you mean by USD debt?

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Money is always tied to the value of things, so according to you inflating the money supply always leads to money losing purchasing power.

Debt denominated in USD

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

you can double the amount in circulation but if no one raises prices there would be no inflation.

Let's say all dollars are now worth 2 Xollars. Trading in dollars is now illegal and everything must now be traded in Xollers.

A loaf of bread costing 1 dollar will now cost 2 Xollars.

Doubling the amount of money in circulation doubles prices.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think the bigger issue is the Federal Reserve

And you would be wrong and using a far right talking point.

The federal reserve has no say on how much corporations charge for their goods and what they consider acceptable profit margins.

An oversupply of money CAN cause a certain amount of inflation, but it's almost nothing compared to corporate profiteering.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fed does have a say in doubling the money supply. That's the real source of inflation.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a St Louis Fed overview of savings accounts 🤦

Get out of here with that bullshit

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Way to factual for a shitpost.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lol. The Fed devalues your money, of course that leads to rising prices.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nowhere near as much as price gouging does. The people selling wares decide the price of them regardless of the money supply, which is mostly meaningless in a predominantly digital economy.

The fed affects the interest rate, which has an indirect effect on prices, but the ones actually deciding what to charge for food, rent, or utilities are the final arbiters artificially increasing prices higher than they need to in order to maximize profits.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which company do you think is price gouging?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Just off the top of my head, some major ones are Walmart, Tyson, Perdue, At&T, Verizon, PG&E and there's many, many more.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go look up their net profit margins, they are going sideways.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, those numbers are what's left AFTER they've done a bunch of creative accounting to avoid taxes.

Their ACTUAL profit margins are significantly larger and growing.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Their ACTUAL profit margins are significantly larger and growing.

Their gross profits are up because money is worth less because of inflation. The purchasing power of those "growing" profits has basically not changed.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

The purchasing power of those "growing" profits has basically not changed.

Lol

LMAO, possibly

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's just not true. And since this is the point where it's clear that you'll just keep repeating the same piece of misguided conservative orthodoxy over and over again, I'm gonna leave you to it.

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks to the corporations you shill for. I'd say I hope that they're paying a fair price for your dignity and integrity, but paying workers fair compensation is not something most corporations do..

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol, you're the one propagating the big banking propaganda that monetary inflation is not inflation.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Nah, big banks can go fuck themselves with THEIR predatory practices too. So can the crypto scams you probably consider more reliable than real currency.

The bottom line is that the Fed doesn't drive inflation anywhere near as much as it did back when most money was in cash.

Corporate profiteering, on the other hand, is at an all time high both in absolute numbers and with regards to driving inflation.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't zoom in on an animated GIF. There's no reason for that to be animated.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, you would, wouldn't you.