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[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I think hate is only when it’s jingoism. Every country should do what’s best for their people. You should be proud to be French, British, American or whatever country you are from.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

This is what you are describing as good: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_conservatism

Here is a national conservative group that aligns with that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freedom_Party

By describing nationalism as a good thing, you are ignoring a massive amount of context. Jingoism only refers to hostile foreign policy and war mongering. As a veteran of the second Iraq and Afghanistan wars, I clearly saw the "jingoistic" nature of the Republican party as a whole. Hell, not only am a US veteran, I have nice firearms collection and enough ammunition components to survive two or three apocalypses. That doesn't mean I have to tolerate the nationalist behavior of people that think they are "conservative".

The abhorrent anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from the GOP should be just one single example of how Christian Nationalism is not "good for all people". The repealing of Roe vs. Wade was not "good for all people". Politicians publicly embracing Q-Anon conspiracy theories is not "good for all people". Supporting and justifying the actions of the Proud Boys is not "good for all people". Creating plans like "Project 2025" to convert the US into a dictatorship is not "good for all people".

Are you calling me unpatriotic because I refuse to accept that Republican politicians are doing all of the above? You, by accepting, tolerating and even supporting any of this is bizarre and is not patriotic. It's disgusting, to be honest.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You keep moving the goal post around. American nationalism is good for Americans. French nationalism is good for France.

I’m not a fan of Christian nationalism as it’s not American nationalism. It isn’t doing what’s best for your country.

I’m a veteran of gulf war 1 and the war on terror. So thank you for your service.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know what? Instead of getting into the weeds here, you keep telling people that nationalism is a good thing. Go right ahead.

You the missed the point entirely, but whatever. My client is out of room to continue this thread properly anyway.

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