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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 84 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Cuz cops aren't here to help people, they're here to defend the wealthy's assests...

People have been learning this lesson for decades, it's just most people never have to interact with police outside a rare traffic ticket.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep - not u common in my shitass city these days for a couple cops to be posted at the doors of safeway, walmart, etc. full time. Me getting mugged by 5 tweakers in broad daylight? 8 hour response time. Homeless dude stealing bread to survive? Immediately arrested.

Meanwhile the police force complains that they need more money because they don't have enough resources to do their jobs... full 1/3rd of our civic budget already. Totally fucking useless, unless you're a big brand.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A lot of the time they're paid overtime rates by the company and not being paid by the city.

They're private security but still wear cop uniforms, drive cop cars, and often sit in their cars burning gas we pay for with taxes.

Businesses are fine paying it, because it's better than paying taxes for real policing and having to wait.

It's moving to full on privatized policing, gated communities do the same shit rather than pay taxes.

When this stuff happens, it never ends well for anyone, but often eventually results in sociatial progress once the ashes settle.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

A lot of the time they're paid overtime rates by the company and not being paid by the city.

That's true in Canada, except those hours worked are added to their union pensionable hours, so taxpayers are still on the hook.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

I know they're paid for by Walmart/whoever, but they should get actual private security that doesn't cost the taxpayer 300 grand to train and prepare for service. The police force can stop complaining about being understaffed too when they're playing rentacop.

Congrats officer you caught a guy stealing 2 loaves of bread and a $10 rotisserie chicken. Mind going to arrest the guy who committed an assault 2 blocks away just now?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

They're also not smart. The amount of work that goes into tracking target vehicles, syncing fake keyfobs, loading them into sea containers, and sending them on an international shipment to an overseas client in incredibe. This isn't being done by idiots. I can't imagine someone who got C's in highschool figuring out how it works or finding a way to stop it.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

The police exist to maintain the state's "monopoly on violence". Their core function is to do violence against members of a state on behalf of that state; the police are the only people with the power to wield that violence. Everything else the police do is just PR and authority creep.

They should be stripped down to their minimum function of hurting people. People SHOULD be afraid when they see the police. People SHOULD think that nothing good can come to them from interacting with the police. All other functions should be moved to people without the power of violence.

It's clear that some police are with me on this idea. The rest can be retrained as social workers so they can do the rest of the job we currently use police for.