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[–] newfie@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I agree. But the question is just do we want to organize under the blue team or under the red team/MAGA team.

I agree those are bad options. And I agree with the concern that many libs will just check out and go back to brunch if Kamala wins.

So it depends if you think Trump would be so bad that he would remove the little that is left of the ability of the working class to organize. We would become similar to Hungary under Orban in terms of centralized power with a deferential judiciary. That seems like it would be worse than 4 more years of Biden+'s blue team nonsense

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

I agree. But the question is just do we want to organize under the blue team or under the red team/MAGA team.

Neither team being in power will fundamentally change the dynamic of the labor struggle, states will continue to lean in the direction they are and class warfare will accelerate.

I agree those are bad options. And I agree with the concern that many libs will just check out and go back to brunch if Kamala wins.

Unfortunately, this has already happened under Biden, and some liberals are even pushing against leftism harder than fascism at this point.

So it depends if you think Trump would be so bad that he would remove the little that is left of the ability of the working class to organize. We would become similar to Hungary under Orban in terms of centralized power with a deferential judiciary. That seems like it would be worse than 4 more years of Biden+'s blue team nonsense

If Trump was that powerful, then the vote won't matter in the first place. The dynamics won't change. Conditions may falter a bit more, but the Dems and the Reps are still continuing the same trajectory.