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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

True, if thia were WW2 they would be non ironically saying for the allies to surrender to the Nazi, Soviets and fascists, to "prevent deaths"

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The soviets were part of the allies, and killed 8/10 Nazis. Seeing your historical illiteracy explains your lack of understanding on current geopolitical events

[–] Schmoo 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're right, the Soviet Union joined the allies against the Nazis because they were explicitly not revolutionary defeatists, which cannot be said of a large number of modern day tankies.

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Tankie" functions for libs the same way, as "woke" does for chuds. It's a meaningless term

[–] Schmoo 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And libs often seems to function for tankies in exactly the same way. I'm an anarchist but when I argue with tankies I get called a lib even as I call for the overthrow of capitalism. Funny how that works, almost as if the problem is dogmatism.

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unlike "Tankie" and "woke", "lib" does in deed have a definition.

[–] Schmoo 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So does "tankie" and "woke." I used mine correctly, you are indeed a tankie. When a chud calls a left-wing political activist woke, at least they're using it correctly, even if they don't necessarily know that they are.

You called me a liberal for - let me check - opposing imperialism regardless of who's doing it. Interesting, do you think that fits the definition?

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

So does “tankie” and “woke.”

Could you kindly defone that for me?

You called me a liberal

Where? Lol funny how you get that feeling I talked about you

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

of course after nzia invaded them, but before that they had agreements to share Europe with the Nazis, who don't know history is you, not me

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Literally everyone made agreements like that. The Soviets were the last to do it after spending years trying to form an anti-fascist pact with the liberal powers.

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You didn't know the soviets were part of the allies, so it's futile to go in any discussion with you. Your repeating fascist propaganda and insinuating that Stalin and Hitler were allies. You can't even contextualize the Munich agreement. Just stfu and lurk more

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

of course i know that in the end they fought the nazis, this don't exclude the fact they had an pact with the nazis to partition europe, also why would be a fascist propaganda if they were the ones making agreements with the fascists?

Stalin and Hitler were allies

maybe yes, maybe not, the love for genocide was mutual tho

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

why would be a fascist propaganda if they were the ones making agreements with the fascists?

Because fascists like yourself like to share this without the proper context to paint the Soviets in a bad light, when in fact it was them almost alone stoping the Holocaust.

maybe yes, maybe not, the love for genocide was mutual tho

I like how the article you shared says

Scholars continue to debate whether the human-made Soviet famine was a central act in a campaign of genocide,[159] or a tragic byproduct of rapid Soviet industrialization and the collectivization of agriculture.[76][51][17][52] Whether the Holodomor is a genocide is a significant and contentious issue in modern politics.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

when in fact it was them almost alone stoping the Holocaust.

That's...wow 💀