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[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

docker preinstalled

This is actually perfect. My main issue with EL distros is that they tend to push podman, which is not a 1-to-1 replacement for docker. This may end up being my default for non-immutable OS installs.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm trying to learn Podman because Fedora atomic is the way I want to go right now, but getting firewalld to cooperate is enraging. Are you hitting problems other than that?

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oddly enough: SELinux and file ownership for bind mounts were pretty hellish for me, even with :z. Granted, that's definitely on me (skill issue) for having misconfigured SELinux policies, but docker got out of my way.

Other than that, my gripes about podman have to do with inter-container DNS communication and having to creating systemd services to manage simple container stacks. That last one is a major thorn in my side because the podman CLI used to have a simple command to generate the systemd file for you, but they're getting rid of it.

I run containers locally for basic dev work and, on occasion, deploy simple self-hosted services. In both of those cases, I find Podman to be an unnecessary hindrance where Docker isn't.

[–] avisf@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

Oddly enough: SELinux and file ownership for bind mounts were pretty hellish for me, even with :z. Granted, that's definitely on me (skill issue) for having misconfigured SELinux policies, but docker got out of my way.

Yes, SELinux can be painful to troubleshoot. I assume the bind mount path may not have been labeled containerfile_t

That last one is a major thorn in my side because the podman CLI used to have a simple command to generate the systemd file for you, but they're getting rid of it.

That command was indeed helpful. They replaced it with quadlets. Systemd quadlets were not that hard to configure as I initially thought though. I migrated my 10 services with their dependent containers, volumes and networks within a few hours or so. The manpage is well written and shows examples https://docs.podman.io/en/v4.6.1/markdown/podman-systemd.unit.5.html

Of course there's nothing wrong with using docker if it fits better

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It's foolish to remove a tool to generate systemd files, running containerized services is one of the main uses of tools like these. That is a big disappointment.