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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago (32 children)

I mean there is a fucking valley between now and 2020.

First, he's not the President. That gave him an overwhelming advantage in trying to steal that election. He held power.

Second, we're looking out for it this time. And its not like Trump is actually off the hook for the last go at it either.

So yes, take heed and pay attention. But also, the difficulty of what he frankly almost go away with the first time (if he would have been able to get Pence to play ball; if the inssurectionists would have strung Pelosi up on a gallows, where might we be?). The difficulty of stealing an election while not in power and while we're looking for it. OF course he's going to claim it was stolen. But fuck him. We don't have to regard his claims.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The main concern is if Trump convinces enough electoral vote officials and they refuse to certify results, we will be in unprecedented territory. Democrats have been known to take the knee in favor of remaining civil (see Bush vs Gore), so there is understandably a lot of uncertainty and why Harris needs to win by a HUGE margin

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He's already convinced enough. Rolling Stone identified at least 70 election officials around the country that are 2020 election deniers. In addition, 3 of the 5 member Georgia Board of Elections are election denying Trump supporters that are already changing rules to allow and support challenges this November. Trump called out all three by name at a rally there and one was even in the front row and briefly spoke at the rally.

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This. THIS THIS THIS. More people need to be aware of this, the only thing that can be done at this point is mass awareness that they're going to attempt to steal the election via the certification process. If in 4 years we haven't been able to root out these fascists from the positions of authority there is no way we will be able to do so by November.

Everyone MUST be clear that this is how Trump plans to steal the presidency -- he has been greasing these wheels now for years and he has enough support that he absolutely can do it. It's not some far-fetched scheme, the Republicans have literally started legislating to ensure this is fully legal in battleground states and to @Boddhisatva@lemmy.world's point, succeeded already in GA.

Make sure literally EVERYONE you know knows that this is the plan. It's already underway and they will succeed if we don't turn election certification denial into the poison pill that project 2025 is.

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