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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am skeptical that they knew it was Biden's plan with a result like this, but can believe they support the reforms.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

like they love the affordable care act, but they absolutely hate 'obamacare'.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hated "both" lol. I went from not being able to afford care, to being forced to pay for insurance I couldn't afford and still not being able to afford care, only poorer. Fucking $6,500 deductible and $13,000 out of pocket max, on top of the premiums.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you live in a Republican state that refused the full federal dollars buy-in from the ACA, then.

When I was unemployed last year, I was on Medicaid. I had similar worries - what if I make just a bit too much money that I'm slightly above the poverty threshold? So I ran a couple of scenarios on the healthcare.gov site. When I checked it, yes not great deductible, but the premium cost was incredibly manageable to hypothetical me.

That being said, healthcare and insurance in this country absolutely needs to be overhauled. A Medicare-for-All option would be a start to let government complete with insurance companies.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

No it was just the reality when it first rolled out, even with the state cooperating.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People loved the preexisting conditions ban, medicaid expansion and regulating what insurance companies had to cover. They hated the tax penalties, the insane bureaucracy, the dumb exchanges that didn't work, and in general the fact that dealing with the kafkaesque nightmare of the medical industry didn't get much better and in fact got worse for people getting bounced from their existing providers.

Let's be real, Obamacare was unpopular not because Obama was black or a democrat but because he tried to do neoliberal "incremental" reform and turned the whole thing into a omnishambles corporate lobbyist clownfucking horror fest.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

'obamacare' isn't even his plan. what we got was what congress compromised on; and then in the end, republicans didn't even vote for it anyway.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They don't. I made this comment in another thread.

I find this part pretty telling:

...63%, supported enacting an 18-year term limit for Supreme Court justices – who enjoy lifetime appointments – with a bare 51% of Republicans in favor along with 61% of independents and a whopping 83% of Democrats.

But then:

Some 58% of Republicans considered Biden’s long-shot proposal to impose term limits and enact a binding code of conduct on the high court a “major threat to democracy,” compared with 26% of independents and just 10% of Democrats.

So basically most Republicans are like "yeah we need term limits... Wait, Biden wants term limits? Fuck that!"

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How I long for the day when a Republican accidentally holds a compassionate, justice-loving, non-hypocritical, decent position on something.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If someone wants to do that, why would they be Republican?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I did say "accidentally." :)

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

They usually do it right after they retire. They suddenly grow morals when they say things to the press in complete hypocrisy to their actions