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FediLore + Fedidrama

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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse

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Names blurred to protect the innocent / crazy. Not trying to call anyone out, just thought the response was hilarious and highly disproportionate. Like, they distinguished that comment (green border/background).

For reference, the comment I presume that was downvoted that apparently triggered that response was to the tune of "BoTH SiDEz!!!!" with some hyper generalizing / stereotyping on the side.

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[โ€“] ptz@dubvee.org 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

:sigh: So i'll just put all the cards on the table here.

  1. I was subscribed to the community, so it wasn't a drive-by downvote.

  2. I'm pretty positive (99.9999999% sure) language barrier was not the issue. What was stated in the comment was very clear, ignorant, and broadly stereotyping (not to mention offensive).

  3. I didn't even downvote the post. I downvoted the ignorant, broadly stereotyping, offensive comment by the OOP.

  4. I didn't even reply to the offensive comment because I don't have time, energy, or enough fucks to give for such an ignorant take.

  5. OOP decides to put anyone who downvoted them on blast.

  6. OOP of that (which I am still tactful enough to keep anonymous), has DM'd me twice and insulted me.

  7. OOP deletes the whole post and pops in here to play the victim. But that's on me for letting them get away with that. I was trying to be tactful and not call anyone out when I should have taken screenshots of the whole thing.

The real Fedidrama was the drama we made along the way ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your comment.

I would just suggest refraining from using words such as "crazy" or "crazy-ass".

The admin could be power tripping, but their actions would speak for themselves, no need to add this kind of terms.

[โ€“] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

The problem with this euphemism treadmill is that we do need to interact with people for whom this label is a useful warning. People tried pushing "wild" as if that's not the same damn issue. In ten years it'd go 'how dare you use dehumanizing animalistic terms, just because that person escalates every negative interaction into a vicious counter-attack.' Even dry terms like "unreasonable" see performative scoffing in rebuke.

British journalists aren't allowed to say "drunk," but still need to describe when a politician stumbles out of a pub and picks a fight with a trashcan. On forums like this, identifying someone as a troll can be treated like a slur, even though trolling is against the same rules, using the same word. Sometimes the only problems solved by changing how we talk about stuff are the problems caused by how we talk about stuff. If we're bluntly describing something that already exists - it doesn't just go away.

Some people have brain problems. That's real. Occasionally, we all have to deal with that. Shorthand for the typical behaviors associated with common forms will emerge no matter which words we taboo.

These labels aren't even rooted in medical terminology - nobody's ever been diagnosed with "nuts" or given a prescription for "crazed." These started as analogy-based insults for the behavior of neurotypical assholes, and were later applied to people with brain problems. Crazy is already the polite alternative. Calling someone shitty for their shitty behavior might be essentialist, but it's not ableist. It's about their shitty behavior. Even when someone can't help it, they're still doing it. Managing the consequences is a lot easier if someone warns you it's gonna happen.