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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

he just thinks he shouldn’t have to work for it

Pretty bog-standard conservative plutocrat mentality. When you've spent your whole life reaching out a hand and finding everything you want in it - money, authority, pussy - why would you ever think you'd need to exert yourself.

But he very well might go to jail if he’s not the president

The SCOTUS has functionally ruled that out and the Dems are going to be more than willing to drop all the charges and forget Trump ever happened, assuming the GOP gets washed in the general.

Dems are loathe to appear threatening to the wealthy class, and letting Trump off will signal its time to get back to business as usual.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't think any Democrat is pardoning Trump, if they don't then it's up to the jury and the judges whether he goes to jail. The cases have been filed.

Maybe SCOTUS can rule him immune for the Georgia election interference case but it can't be pardoned.

The Hush Money case he's already guilty and just awaiting sentencing in September.

The stolen classified documents case he wasn't president for that so he won't get SCOTUS, only thing that could be done is a pardon or a failure to continue the prosecution but the appeal of Aileen Cannon's ruling is happening in this administration.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe SCOTUS can rule him immune for the Georgia election interference case but it can't be pardoned.

They could absolve state charges? Georgia is a state law that was broken.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The federal interest is that they said the US president is constitutionally immune from prosecution for performing his Constitutional duties. If a state prosecutes a president for performing his Constitutional duties, they have violated the US Constitution and SCOTUS is who has the final decision on that.

Think of how SCOTUS decision Roe V Wade said there was a Constitutional right of bodily autonomy, and when states passed abortion bans when Roe was the law of the land the laws just didn't take effect, and the states could not arrest doctors for performing abortions. States can't violate the US Constitution.

(In this instance arguing the election interference was Constitutionally protected would be a huge stretch I'm not saying he WILL get off on those charges but if SCOTUS wanted to they could make it so)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think any Democrat is pardoning Trump

They don't have to. The DOJ can simply drop the charges.

The Hush Money case he’s already guilty and just awaiting sentencing in September.

He's going to get a smallish fine and that'll be that.

The stolen classified documents case he wasn’t president for that so he won’t get SCOTUS

The prosecutors will drop the case as soon as the election is over. These are only tools to tarnish his popularity. There's no serious desire to see a former President locked up.

[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a dream," that all guilty people rich or poor, would face an equal consequences for their actions." So I have that desire.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not holding my breath

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Didn't know I was replying to Nostradamus guess I lose.