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The Internet in Ancient Times

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Welcome to the stone age... or the bronze age... or the iron age... heck, anything with an 'age' is welcome, except our modern age or any ages to come.

This is about what the internet was like thousands of years ago back when it all started. Like when Darius the Great hired mercenaries via Craigslist or when Egypt invented emojis.

CODE OF LAWS

1 - Be civil. No name calling, no fighting, keep your flint hand axes inside your leather pouches at all times.

2 - Keep the AI stuff to a minimum. It gets annoying and old fashioned memes are more fun for everyone.

3 - None of this newfangled modern 21st century nonsense. We don't even know what "21st century" means.

4 - No porn/explicit content. The king is sensitive about these things.

5 - No lemmy.world TOS violations will be tolerated. So there.

6 - There is no ~~rule~~ law 6.

Laws of justice which Hammurabi, the wise king, established. A righteous law, and pious statute did he teach the land. Hammurabi, the protecting king am I. I have not withdrawn myself from the men, whom Bel gave to me, the rule over whom Marduk gave to me, I was not negligent, but I made them a peaceful abiding-place. I expounded all great difficulties, I made the light shine upon them. With the mighty weapons which Zamama and Ishtar entrusted to me, with the keen vision with which Ea endowed me, with the wisdom that Marduk gave me, I have uprooted the enemy above and below (in north and south), subdued the earth, brought prosperity to the land, guaranteed security to the inhabitants in their homes; a disturber was not permitted. The great gods have called me, I am the salvation-bearing shepherd, whose staff is straight, the good shadow that is spread over my city; on my breast I cherish the inhabitants of the land of Sumer and Akkad; in my shelter I have let them repose in peace; in my deep wisdom have I enclosed them. That the strong might not injure the weak, in order to protect the widows and orphans, I have in Babylon the city where Anu and Bel raise high their head, in E-Sagil, the Temple, whose foundations stand firm as heaven and earth, in order to bespeak justice in the land, to settle all disputes, and heal all injuries, set up these my precious words, written upon my memorial stone, before the image of me, as king of righteousness.

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[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think I remember reading that early agrarians probably worked about 20 hours a week

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is probably a misleading average. Outside of sowing and reaping, farms need pretty much no work

But when they need it, they need A LOT of it

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago

So let me take it easy and do hobbies and participate in the community for 9 months of the year and bust ass writing software for the other 3

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Anthropologists at Harvard did an extensive multi-year study of the !Kung San people in southern Africa who still lived by hunting and gathering in the '60s and '70s. Despite living in near-desert conditions, they spent an average of about 17 hours a week in food-related activities. Granted, this yielded a diet of around 1200 calories a day, but they were relatively very small people and this amount was adequate. Mongongo nuts FTW. Whether this lifestyle (and that of other studied modern hunter/gatherers) is generally representative of pre-historic and pre-agricultural humans is an open question, but it's hard to imagine that hunting and gathering in less marginal environments would have required more time and effort - especially when there were a bunch of big hairy elephants you could run off cliffs walking around.

Early agrarians, however, probably had to bust much more ass to make a living, as the farmer's toolkits of domesticated species were not as well-developed as today.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Early agrarians also likely would not have planted the monoculture fields we plant today. They would likely have worked with nature to encourage growth in an easier, more sustainable way. We do things the hard way because we grow with the intention to harvest a specific crop, not just to ensure there's adequate food in your local surroundings.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

My knowledge might be influenced by video games, but wasn't crop rotation something discovered in the middle ages?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

who still lived by hunting and gathering in the '60s and '70s.

But they still do?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Not so much any more. Even during the Harvard studies they did a lot of trading with neighboring horticultural peoples, sometimes worked for them and white settlers, and received some food aid at times. Today they've been largely resettled and only occasionally engage in traditional hunting and gathering activities.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Even medieval peasants under Feudalism worked less than we do, too.