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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how you can believe God is omnipotent while also being utterly incapable of choosing to not punish people without killing his son. All the metaphors you make break down because it's all god in control. God chose what is and is not a sin. God is the one punishing for breaking those rules. But suddenly God is incapable of choosing to not punish people without literally murdering his son? And God sends people to hell for the "sin" of not "accepting" this "forgiveness" when he could've just chosen not to punish us? God subjects people to an infinite amount of suffering for a finite amount of wrongdoing? Possibly even the only wrongdoing of not accepting him if you otherwise followed everything? Even if they literally never even heard of God?

If God is real then he's psychopathic.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

God paid the price Himself. How's this psychopathic? How could a perfect being exist in a perfect realm with people running about committing atrocities?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

It's awfully dramatic to kill yourself and say that accepting you did it means people get forgiveness from your own wrath instead of simply choosing to not punish people if they accept you. How is it not gas lighting? "The only way for me to forgive you for the wickedness of original sin is for me to kill myself and for you to accept that. No, I can't just choose to not send people to hell if they believe in me, I have to also kill myself." How can that not be viewed as guilt tripping people?

The entire concept of original sin is also horrible because Adam and Eve literally did not know the difference between right and wrong when they sinned. They did not know what they were doing was wrong. They did not know the difference between good and evil until they ate the fruit. So God punishes all of humanity for all eternity just because two people made an honest mistake?

God subjects people to an infinite amount of suffering in hell if they die as a baby because two people did something wrong when they literally didn't didn't even know right from wrong.

The idea of calling any of this justice is beyond me.