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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it’s what they tell themselves they’re doing.

So they're not actually doing it. The group isn't doing the thing which you think defines that group.

No alien imposed fascism upon these people. They chose fascism. They are fascists. And that extreme form of conservative ideology is never about bringing anything back - that's just the lie they tell, because it works. They plan transformative violence for unprecedented American dictatorship, and they just say it'll be like the past, somehow.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm saying they aren't American conservatives at all, they're just boring old fascists.

Conservatism is a relative judgement based on politically acceptable rhetoric. Fascism is not.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

'But they're not true Scotsmen.'

My guy, fascism is absogoddamnlutely a form of conservatism. It's what that label actually refers to... not what you'd like it to refer to.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you want to argue that America has been a fascist state for most of its history I'll agree.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You speak a whole different language, huh.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

No dictionary on Earth is going to tell you that conservatives worldwide stopped being conservatives when - for some reason! - they overwhelmingly identified with fascists rising from among their ranks.

And if it did it would still prove you wrong, because apparently it defines fascism as whatever America was already doing. I guess they're duty-bound to conserve that, because that's totally how labels work. Like how leftists are against rights, and the Republican party is aligned with Wolfe Tone.