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I'm surprised no one's posted about Skiff.
Well, you know, e-mail gives you complete privacy only in special cases. There is a reddit's comments thread about this. Non-gmail e-mail is only needed to avoid monitoring by the mail service provider.
TL;DR If you need complete privacy of communication, use Matrix-based software with your own server located in a neutral country.
After reading comments from their CEO on the protonmail subreddit I'm surprised anyone would use it in the first place. Also it's only E2EE with other skiff emails. They don't use PGP so their email encryption doesn't interoperate with other providers.
I don't use it as my default provider. Obviously, for some messaging, I use Proton. But if you need a FOSS provider, that will be used for registration in some services and password recovery, this is a very good option! They don't use this information for commercial purposes, that's already better than Gmail or Outlook.
Skiff uses discord, so.. idk what I think of that, they also lack support for pgp and are in the us afaik
+1 on Skiff. E2EE intra- and inbound. Great service, greater support. Free custom domains setup (& catchall aliasing!!!). Comes with a Drive, Pages, and Calendar suite.
Got excited and then immediately sad while reading they were involved in crypto.
Do they provide SMTP? So that I can use it in a Wordpress instance?
They don't.
No SMTP or IMAP as it's an E2EE service and unlike Proton they don't (yet anyway) have a "bridge" service. You get to use your own domain, a handful of aliases, and a generous amount of storage all on the free plan with higher limits on the paid plans.
Anyone looking for standard mail protocol support and gobs of storage for free/cheap and who are cool with a very non-sexy 90s web UI, would do well to check out the European provider mail.ee . They've been reliable for me over the past year or so though I'm not exactly a high-volume customer.