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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

would USA helicopters got shot down by the drone too?

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

People who answer you won't know what they're talking about.

People who know what they're talking about won't answer you.

Repost your question to the war thunder forums if you want it answered.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

With citable sources even!

We would offer the drone $2,200 and it would come work for us

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A helicopter will crash if you just look at it wrong. I'm not quite sure why this is surprising to a lot of people.

Just because a helicopter can go faster than a drone, doesn't mean it's always going faster than a drone. The benefit of vertical take off is that you can land and pick up troops in dangerous areas.

More than likely this is the same scenario as whenever they shoot down one of ours with an RPG in Afghanistan. Got them right after touch down or take off, or got a lucky hit while they were flying low and slow.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

A helicopter will crash if you just look at it wrong. I’m not quite sure why this is surprising to a lot of people.

People really don't seem to understand how ridiculously flimsy helicopters can be. There's a reason why they're often called flying death traps by anyone who has to regularly be in one

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Yeap, only thing worse than rotary aircraft are apparently tiltrotar aircraft. The V22 is trying it's best to be the most dangerous thing in the air in the worst way possible.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yup, and a second rotor just adds another way to die.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And making those rotors tilt adds many new and exciting ways to die

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"We made our plane a helicopter so it works less."

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"It may be slow, but it's dangerous to operate"

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"It's got VTOL! Well, STOL. And by L we mean wear your seatbelt."

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

would USA helicopters got shot down by the drone too?

I would guess so.

If we had a sensor package that could reliably detect FPV drones out there, I suspect that it'd be getting mass-produced and sent to the Ukrainians.

A helicopter can go faster than an FPV drone, so as long as it's in the air, and has a bit of warning, it can just outfly the drone; the drone can't catch up. Maybe multiple drones simultaneously coming from all directions, especially if there's also heavy air defenses that prevent the helicopter from climbing, could still bring down a helicopter.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

"A bit of warning" is probably overselling the acceleration of a traditional rotorcraft. You can't safely get four tons of anything moving quickly using the same mechanism keeping it off the ground. Compare that with minimalist disposable quadcopters, with their zero-to-top-speed profile of "holy shit, where'd it go?"