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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

its so weird that we have a difficult to understand electoral college system and yet one of the common arguments against ranked choice and party list voting is "its too hard to understand"

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to understand the EC to not spoil a FPTP ballot. You do need to understand a more complex process to not spoil a ranked choice ballot. That's an argument I agree with in favor of score, STAR, or approval voting.

Of course the fact that it is mildly easier to understand than some alternatives does not excuse the fact that FPTP is awful for democracy.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Filing out an RCV ballot is no different than any other ranking system. Rank politicians in the order you'd like to vote for them. You may leave some or all blank.

That's it. That's the voter instruction. It's not hard.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Just re-read my comment, I didn't write anything about spoiling the ballot. I had typed it out but forgot deleting it. Sorry.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And giving two candidates the same rank? You are pretending that I wrote it is hard to do. I wrote that it is easier to spoil a ballot. People make mistakes.

Needing to rank candidates relative to each other is different from score voting where you just rank them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

A proper RCV ballot is just numbering candidates. On a computer screen, you might drag the names into order. Score voting isn't just ranking them, you give each one a rating and then there's about 3 different ways those scores can be used to determine a winner. RCV is simple, easy, and better than FPTP.