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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cooperatives are cool, but unfortunately Markets lead to class contradictions even with cooperatives in place, which is why the goal still needs to be full Socialism.

[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cooperatives have different structures to help mitigate class conflicts, but either way the model essentially, or practically, has a baked in, or something akin to a, union by giving members voting rights while not outright excluding the presence of a union.

I don't disagree with having a goal of full socialism. I just see cooperatives as a practical stepping stone in that direction.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They certainly can be a practical stepping stone, and probably will be in some countries, I just wanted to indicate that competing worker coops does not defeat the issues inherent to the profit motive.

[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 1 points 3 months ago

Ah right. I see. This is why I think we need to couple this with something like the economy for the common good as an alternative to measuring growth of an economy by GDP.