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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago (4 children)

A lot of my fellow Americans celebrate their work ethic. You have no idea how many times people, even people on sites like this one, brag about how hard and how many hours they work. I never got it. The minute that clocked turns five, I'm out the door.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Having lived and worked in Britain which also has the very same "work hard" fetish, I've always felt that was just celebrating the very opposite of efficiency:

  • A person in a quarry breaking stone with a small hammer 12h a day is working hard.
  • A person in a quarry breaking stone with a pneumatic drill 2h a day is working far less hard.

Guess which of the two produces more gravel at the end of each day....

In many industries "hours worked" might be vastly easier to measure for each worker than their productivity (plus under bad management highly productive workers get trottled down by the rest and things like bad project planning), but "hours worked" is in no way form or shape the desired product of employing somebody unless what we're talking about is a Human Resources company billing those hours to a client.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

The only reason I willingly do extra hours is when I'm coding and in a flow state, but at that point time ceases to exist. I get sucked back periodically cuz tech job, but my work is really good about letting us flex our time as long as we hit 40.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"Look how hard I'm punching myself! It took me a lot of practice to punch myself this hard! Jealous?"

I've legit told my present supervisor that literally works 14 hour days by choice and brags about it that I pity her for it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

That's what it feels like when they brag about it. If you want to brag about how hard you worked and how long you took building a fence around your back yard, I will be impressed. If you want to brag about how hard you worked and how long you took filling out reports or whatever, I could not care less. If anything, you have my pity for thinking that's something to brag about.

I had a boss once who liked brag about never taking PTO, as if it were a positive thing. To me that just means your priorities are ass backwards.