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Protestation (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 months ago by protestation@discuss.tchncs.de to c/communism@lemmy.ml

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[–] lud@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, the financial system a country uses has technically no bearing on the political system.

But are most capitalist countries also democratic? Yes. Are there any democratic communist countries? No.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

technically, no. but i dont think its democratic for money to have a disproportionate impact in the system, by definition.

[–] lud@lemm.ee -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Could you explain further how having money leads to a disproportionate impact? Everyone can still vote.

You could argue that democracy doesn't exist anywhere due to your high standards but I don't really agree. There are worse democracies like the USA and better democracies (most others), but saying democracy doesn't exist at all is odd (because really, are there any countries that can be considered democracies that aren't capitalistic?)

Pretty much everyone agrees that what a lot of the western world and some others have is democracy. It doesn't really matter what you specifically believe about that.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

moneyed interests choose the candidates you are voting for. it doesnt really matter if they let you choose between the candidates they choose for you.

the US is not the only place where this happens because the US imposes their will everywhere else. its the same shit over here and most of the planet, trust me.

isnt it weird that on capitalism, a couple of corporations control half the economy?

[–] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I don't trust you. Provide sources please.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

then you are gonna have to look for it. you didnt source any of your claims either.

i tought this was obvious in the communism sub of all places but look into how the washington consensus and draconian IMF rules for the third world are imposed, and you will have a pretty good starting point for your research.

also read up on how marxists and leninists understand neocolonialism, its still relevant today.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I didn't really make any claims though. If you disagree what claims do you want sources for?

i tought this was obvious in the communism sub of all places

That asking for sources is a sin? Yeah I actually know. You people always hate that.