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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nha, city dwellers could use bicycles most of the times

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Or the electrified transit we should be building

[–] CalPal@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bus driver here. Our transit commission finally got it's first EV bus to start the transition to the electric system! But we still need to build the charging stations for it and other EVs to use, not to mention the bureaucracy and other normalities that go in certifying any vehicle for the road, plus our one garage did kinda burn down, so that has set things back a wee bit...

It's coming, but do expect it to take a long-ass time.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Trams dont need charging stations. We need more trams. We had them 100 years ago we could do so much better today

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Too, yes. Under 10kms all can and will be bike with good infrastructure. Anything beyond that can be public transportation, again, with good infrastructure

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I meant my statement to be inclusive with cycling.

We also need localized transit because some people are unable to cycle. Some people may also refuse to cycle in some weather. Some people also work labour jobs and don't really want the extra exercise on their commute.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

I'm not proposing banning cars or other forms of transportation altogether either. I do propose that we severely restrict (in comparison to today) car traffic. Make it more expensive, make the roads to take longer than by bike, push it all where possible out of city centers.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not proposing banning cars or other forms of transportation altogether either. I do propose that we severely restrict (in comparison to today) car traffic. Make it more expensive, make the roads to take longer than by bike, push it all where possible out of city centers.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cars aren't accessible to everyone either. A blind person cannot drive a car and probably can't commute on a bike, but they may be able to take transit.

If we want car free city centers, we need transit.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Oh absolutely! I sometimes forget to mention public transportation, but yeah... < 2kms is walkable, < 10 kms is easily doable by bike, beyond that public transport. And short range public transportation of course as well for those that can't bike, or for when it rains

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not proposing banning cars or other forms of transportation altogether either. I do propose that we severely restrict (in comparison to today) car traffic. Make it more expensive, make the roads to take longer than by bike, push it all where possible out of city centers.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Depends how "city" you're talking. If you're in a large core, sure, but Canadian cities are sprawling enough you really need something faster in many urban areas (like public transit).

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

That's why I said most of the times. Anything under 10km can easily be done by bike, especially once you get used to it.

I ride my bike to work every day and I do the ~5km on bike faster than by car, every single time

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We should also address how wasteful and poorly planned our cities are

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

Yep. It's tough, though, since building is slow, and now that the infrastructure stretching way out is there it doesn't make much sense to abandon it. Some cities are getting rid of stupid zoning laws at least.