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What do you love or hate about Safari? (programming.dev)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by prwnr@programming.dev to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world

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Safari is often treated harshly, especially by developers working on websites. I also can’t recall if anyone ever said or wrote that he likes it as a user.

I personally am using it on all my devices and I enjoy it simplicity. I dislike the fact that there are very few good extensions for it, but I’m not sure if that’s a problem from developers or from Apple.

So, my question today is: what do you like or hate about Safari, that either made you use it or uninstall?

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[+] porsche@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] prwnr@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I only recently heard about Orion. Is is that good? How the Mac app compares to Arc if you know? cause Arc is the other trending browser on MacOS that I heard and tried.

[–] whynotzoidberg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arc is good. There’s plenty to like, and has lasting potential.

That being said, here’s some recent copy pasta from another comment I wrote. It highlights reasons I’ve started looking back at FF (or Safari).

—— I've been using Arc for a couple of months now. But lately I've been toying with the idea of going back. Why?

Extensions. I really, really, really wish I could see my password manager in plain view. Arc has a problem of limited screen real estate; instead of showing extensions, they choose to show buttons for spaces (and big buttons for "Favorites").
Tab sync. It's not super confusing, but it's a little confusing, having pinned tabs sync but other tabs not sync. Especially when Arc is going to auto-archive tabs for me. It creates a chaotic experience.

Things I'll miss if I go back!

Little Arc. I love it. It's quick and what I need often times, for both in-page links and .webloc files I have in various places. The only problem Little Arc has is it is single-instanced; that makes it hard to use as my solution for PWA shortcuts on the desktop.
Mobile Arc. It's a neat way to implement mobile. I dig it.

Things that didn't matter too much, but I'll call out:

I miss having a downloads button easily view- and click-able. Why? I like to see progress % and speed at a glance.
The window borders are thicc. I used to change Windows registry settings to have thin window borders.
The "add split" buttons at the top right are too easy to click on, and accidentally splitting a window can kill your progress in a web form.
Settings don't sync between instances. This sucks for me because I manually remap Ctrl+Tab / Ctrl+Shift+Tab to sequential switching rather than "last used", and I have to manually remap that on all my Arc installs. [Same with Bitwarden’s field-fill shortcut.]

[–] prwnr@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

That is a very good opinion on the Arc, thanks for sharing.

I personally love the Little Arc the most. The idea behind it was great, being able to open link in a separate simplified window is great.

Other than that I don’t really know what I liked the most. The idea behind tabs is good too, but similar thing can be achieved with pinned tabs on Safari (obviously not that fast). The profiles idea is good as well, but I’m missing being able to associate them with current Focus status and I bet that the new Profiles coming to Safari will have that.

[–] AperiOperimentum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’m a Firefox user trying out Orion right now. I gotta say that I’m impressed. It looks and acts like Safari, which I like, but supports all the extensions I love.