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Please clarify. I am not aware of using any pronoun but the non-gendered, second-person object/subject pronoun "you". I'm not having other forms in the English language clearly come to mind.
I suppose I should perhaps be more specific. By "hypothetical, non-human sentience", my meaning was intended more in line with "hypothetical sentience of synthetic or non-human biological origin". A being of human birth is generally implicitly considered to have all rights and responsibilities of a human under most legal and philosophical standards. The only potential issue being informed consent. But, if that's not in question, I'd not see any legitimacy in questioning anyone's genuinely-held feelings or beliefs on their identity; noone can tell anyone else who they are inside.
An aside, this phrasing seems to appear frequently in discussion on soulism that I'm seeing. I'm not sure if it is a linguistic quirk but, as one who's mother tongue is English, it comes across as oddly authoritative in a manner that seems to be speaking for others, rather than in their stead, similar to a monarchist "royal We". Not implying that that is the intent but stating that that is the feeling that it evokes for me.
I use capitalised pronouns. I/Me/You/They/Them.
Weird. I don't get why that phrase is a problem, but maybe it's My NPD. Would it sound less pompous if I said "us soulists" instead? Us Australians say "us guys" a lot and it's part of My instinctive vocabulary, but I don't like how it sounds grammatically so I changed "us" to "we". What's the best way to talk about a group that I'm a member of?