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[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've become confused by the term "lib." I've seen it used to refer to

  • liberals, which is what I always thought it meant
  • ultra-left liberals, often indistinguishable from the ultra-right except in who they worship
  • rarely, but occasionally libertarians

I no longer understand what it means in any context.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

In the context of US political system, it's opposite of "conservative". In the context of European politics, it's libertarian. In the context of leftist politics, it's "centrist", or rather "center-right".

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Things are even more complicated than that due to the existence of liberal anti-capitalists that interpret the liberal theory of inalienable rights, which originated in the abolitionist, democratic and feminist movements, as also invalidating the employer-employee contract.

In other words, there is overlap between liberals and leftists as well

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[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Sure, I was just giving the shortest possible overview.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While that helps, what doesn't help is that people don't often specify their context when they use it. An American commenting on Australian politics might very well use their own colloquial definition.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I reckon it's safe to assume it's option three. On lemmy, option one tends to include a slur, and option two tends to be in German.