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[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 64 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm so glad for the German worker's rights. I practically can't be fired for being sick.

[–] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

In fact you can’t be fired at all (in the sense of "leave immediately and we won’t pay you anymore“) unless you really fuck up (like, assault your superior or something along those lines).

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not true. The hurdles are high but you can get fired for sickness.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's what "practically" implies. It's possible, but firing someone in a legal way is really really hard. Most fired employees just take the hint, but that doesn't mean it's legal to fire them.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're right, I took the meaning of "practically" too literal (as in only theoretically possible).

It's true, you can just call your doctor in Germany and get your employer notified and they have to accept. You don't even have to be sick. It's getting dangeous once you accumulate more than 6 weeks of sick days but even then there are still hurdles for the employer before they can fire you.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s getting dangeous once you accumulate more than 6 weeks of sick days

No, it just means the health insurance starts paying your salary, and you'll get less money. But for your employer it's actually better, because they don't have to pay you anymore.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's only true for 6 consecutive weeks of sickness.

One of the prerequisites to fire someone for sickness is that they are sick "often" and there's no improvement to be expected. That's a soft limit but if you're sick for 6 accumulated weeks for a number of consecutive years, that box is pretty clearly checked because it's twice the average of sick days in Germany.