Fediverse

The growth of Lemmy and Kbin continues with the #redditmigration. Flickr is considering ActivityPub support, and new proposals to help people join the fediverse.

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Tracking the growth of Lemmy + Kbin

Can't make an account on lemmy.world or lemmy.ml?
Everytime I try it just spins indefinitely. Any ideas?

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I’d like to explore a project for NLP based search on the fediverse. But I’m a fediverse beginner and am not sure if it’s possible to index fediverse content.

My general idea is -

1. Set up my own read-only instance, let’s say of kbin. I’m not sure if the concept of a read-only instance makes sense. It’s read-only because the instance only needs to be able to read the content already on the fediverse and doesn’t need the ability to post content.
2. At some regular interval, let’s say once a day, monitor any changes in the content from the previous run. I’m not sure if there is a single “fediverse” where all the content can be read from. If not, then I can start with tracking the same content as on kbin.social. Is it possible to monitor changes to content on a kbin instance?
3. I’ll convert the content into vector embeddings by a using an NLP ML model like CLIP. The embeddings will be stored in a vector store. The vector store will also include the url of the content as metadata.
4. When a user requests a search, the search term is converted to its vector embedding using the same ML model and the most similar vectors are identified.
5. The user gets the search results as urls of the most relevant content, and perhaps a preview of the content. The user can then access the full content from where it’s originally posted using its url.

I’m comfortable with setting up steps 3 and 4. But I do not know the fediverse enough to answer whether steps 1, 2, and 5 would work or even make sense how I’m envisioning them.

Can some of the fediverse veterans help me understand if this is a feasible approach or if I’ve got it all wrong?

The real history is much messier—and more inspiring.

what's the difference between kbin and lemmy? if i go here kbin isn't on the list, so is kbin like it's own thing? still kinda trying to figure this out lol

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Find my lemmy user here: https://jemmy.jeena.net/u/jeena

I installed Tangram browser on my Linux computer and finding this quite good for accessing kbin and Lemmy.

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I have two questions mainly:

1. Is there an existing tool like this? Or maybe even a built-in way to check on a per instance basis if it's currently federated with another instance or not?

2. What's the default state of an instance once it starts up? I'm guessing open to all, and defederation has to be an intentional choice?

Overall I'm just curious. I don't have the capability to code something like this myself, but I'd be pretty interested to check on the links between instances as the Fediverse grows.

So I’m still getting the hang of the fediverse, and really enjoying my time here. This may be helpful for new people trying to figure out their setup.

-Pixelfed is your instagram: I joined Pixelfed.social since in general I am trying to see how the largest communities play out

-Kbin or lemmy is your Reddit. Again I joined kbin.social, but these communities all talk (or “federate”) to each other so it’s a matter of personal preference if you want to join the main .social or find an alt instance that feels more like you’re kinda stuff

-Mastadon is your twitter (I’m sure there are others, I’m just not a big twitter style person). Honestly I wasn’t a big twitter person anyway, but a cool thing about ActivityPub is you can see things from kbin, pixelfed, etc from any one of them. It’s not always clean but it’s pretty dam cool

I wish all well in their journey across the threadiverse. It really does seem awesome even if it’s taking some time to build up with users and content.

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I had been having trouble getting meaningful results from the fediverse on Google, and after seeing this post, it seems I'm not the only one. So, I created a site that helps search the fediverse in your search engine of choice (it currently supports Google, Bing, Yahoo, DuckDuckGo, and Dogpile).

Due to query limitations with most search engines, it currently only searches the top 15 lemmy/kbin instances, but I've tested it and it seems to provide access to a good chunk of fediverse content. The exception is Google, which should be far more reliable overall as well as providing the ability to search Mastodon and PeerTube.

If you have contributions or ideas for improvement, feel free to check out the project here or shoot me a message. Hope this helps people! :)

https://fedi-search.com/

Edit: Update in progress including improved search queries and support for Mastodon/PeerTube (Google only, unfortunately)

Edit 2: Update is live, along with a dedicated domain name. If the website doesn't look any different for you, try Ctrl+F5 or clearing site data - it seems some browsers are caching the old page.

what is going on here?
well i am new to this whole fediverse/kbin/decentralized social media stuff but i am veeeery very interested at what all this is.

well its very complicated to "get the hang of" so can somebody please explain how all of this works? i im overwhelmed

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So I was thinking of a few ways to help create a bit of direction in the chaos... These are probably already in the works or intentionally NOT implemented, so I'd like to hear why or why not. These are just a few thoughts of mine.

For everyone wanting a list of communities, and preventing duplicate communities on multiple instances:

1. Create the culture that instances ARE the communities. The only thing this limits is duplicating/migrating accounts accross instannces so you aren't locked in to one instance/community if you're like me and like multiple things.
2. Create the topics within these instances that relate to the community's topics. Then have a federated page where you subscribe to other instances and this is your feed.

For everyone wanting the largest federation possible even on small instances, have a central fed site that is JUST a center point of federation and a dynamic list of instances

1. Make Fediverse.party or the like a central point that every new instance has to federate to once made. This makes it so all the other instances can see this new site too.
2. This can help moderation where on Fediverse.party there can be a ranking/voting system on whether an instance should be defederated to the central hub, and can be individually federated if admins want.
3. This also makes it so people can see the rank/review of an instance before joining, and get a good idea of the culture and ideals of that instance.

For everyone wanting more instances, but fewer duplicate communities on each, encourage instances to focus on the subject they discuss. Like Forums.

1. For instance: You want to join an instance relating to Honda Cars, so you joinHondaCarForums.com. There is a general discussion on everything and this is where you will find the federated feeds of everything. Then there are topics like "Machanical help" or "Galleries", as well as "Training Videos" and this can be federation of other instances that are like PeerTube and PixelFed instances.
2. You can then subscribe to other topics as well and this can be your "Subscription feed" that you only see your front page of your topics you want to see. This makes it so you aren't "constricted" by your specific topic on your instance.

For everyone not sure what the fediverse is or how to make a site federate, make federation the standard for ALL sites.

1. Make current community sites federate using the protocol. Developers can make a plugin or some third-party app (think like Disqus) that makes it so current sites can be a part of the fediverse too.
2. That way people know that "oh I can see HondaCarForums.com while I'm on KawasakiBikeForums.com, so that's how federation works!! Cool!" And have it easy to understand for new people. Honestly this is how I think the web should work but hasn't yet. Users with WordPress accounts can comment across WordPress hosted sites, which is how I think these sites can solve the issue of feeling locked in to a single instance. Have a third party app be where you make your federated account and can then be a part of any site.

These are easy to implement, can increase moderation abilities, and can encourage more instances be made as well as increase the simplicity of all of this "new-concept" complications with new users. This is all probably in the works but I wanted to see if anyone had any counter-points to be made to any of these ideas. What do you think?

IDK you guys might be interested in the fedi-wide music competition (inspired by Eurovision season) - voting is just DMing the bot... I'm pretty sure even the L/k accounts can do it via message (but I'm not even sure how to access writing one.... I've been receiving them fine though).

I wondered how this would go. It wasn’t even close.

I'm just curious, since I tend to get attached to my accounts but I also like having access to all information so I don't want to use a defederated instance. If, say, kbin got overrun by bad actors and was defederated by everyone else, is the only option to jump ship? Unfortunately I don't have the capability to selfhost or I would to avoid such problems.

What are your contingency plans if such a thing occurs?

Some days ago I switched from Reddit to Kbin and already I like fediverse.

In here, I should stand on my creativity, not on my consumption.
I feel like if I were accessing early internet.
I discovered again that creativity is very exciting and joyful for me.

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I thought that my instance is having problems with sending posts to other instances, especially lemmy instances, so I tried something and these are my observations:

When I post an article to @kbinMeta not all servers that subscribed to the magazine get that article (seemingly). It of course appears at https://kbin.social, but not necessarily on other servers. This is not necessarily by design, it might be, that kbin.social is just struggling to keep up, but I've waited for about an hour and it did not show up on other servers and there are other posts from kbin.social users in kbinMeta at htts://lemmy.ml that got posted after I posted my article, but mine isn't there.
However when I mention a user from another server in a comment this server instantly gets the comment that mentions the user from said instance including the article, which was previously not present on the server.

So here is my Theory:

• I post something to @kbinMeta -> kbin.social gets the post (-> kbin.social broadcasts it to servers that subscribed to the magazine)
• I post something to @kbinMeta and mention a specific user from https://feddit.de
  • -> kbin.social gets the post (-> kbin.social broadcasts it to servers that subscribed to the magazine)
  • -> feddit.de gets the post directly

The part thats in paranthesis I am not sure about. Maybe it gets done and maybe not. If it is done then the queue on kbin.social for outgoing messages is just huge and a message is waiting for over an hour to get processed

Maybe some of you know more than me. I just that and this is my observation.

I think I lastly understand difference of Kbin thread and microblog

• thread is bbs-like communication with posted article and commets about it
• microblog is tweet-like communication with posted tweet and replies to it
  Is it correct?

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🌈Is the fediverse confusing you? ELI5: fediverse for dummies🌈

Try thinking of it like the edit: EU. Each instance (lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, kbin, beehaw, etc) is its own separate 'state' with its own rules and regulations. When federated, these 'states' talk and share content with each other. When defederated, they do not continue to talk between each other. You cannot log into another state/instance using your state/instance's credentials, but you can see and interact with content from another state/instance.

The beauty of federation is that each instance can choose which they do and do not wish to share content/associate with.

Also, translation for ex-redditors:

subreddit = lemmy community = kbin magazine

kbin/lemmy = reddit clone

mastodon = twitter clone

You can currently connect through any of the above using whichever instance layout you prefer (reddit-like or twitter-like), though given that it's all very in beta (early on) things will be buggy. ETA: there are, of course, more, but these are the ones I'm most familiar with currently

I hope this helps!

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lemmy.ml is utterly useless. you can't sign up or subscribe half the time. I don't wtf is wrong with them.

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super interesting talk on activitypub/fediverse.