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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by FarLine99@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
 

Link to article from main Lemmy❤️ developer about Signal privacy. Mostly fair points. I kinda distrust so centralized services but basically we have no other options (Matrix is buggy in many aspects). What can you say about this article?

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the argument against allowing anyone to host their own signal server? I mean, the code is open sourced, why not allow people to set up their own servers too?

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Because Signal is against it. Read the article, there is some talk about it.

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[–] immibis@social.immibis.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's Session, which uses some kind of shitty blockchain version of not-quite-Tor. Every user acts like a not-quite-onion-service and your username is a not-quite-onion-address.

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] immibis@social.immibis.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@FarLine99 I think there are also chat systems that use the real Tor network.

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[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your link leads to an image...

The link in the body leads to the essay.

I remember when it made the rounds on different sites (I found 2 HN links with an comments)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28544735

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30872361

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. Post is made from app so it is it's behavior. Many Lemmy apps behave in similar way.

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

If you're looking to chat about certain topics, there are open groups, so called communities, about a lot of things: https://sessioncommunities.online/

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Calls are in beta and buggy. Lacks features, translations. Good concept but not mature realization.

[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This same thing has been reposted here so much. So I am going to copy-paste my original response once again.

Governments routinely fund the development of secure and open communication systems because they themselves benefit from having such communication tools which can be trusted. By the logic presented in this "essay", one shouldn't be using the internet at all. What you need to check is whether Signal's technical claims about its encryption is true or not. There is nothing in this article that raises any question on Signal's encryption. We already know how much data Signal has on its users through their responses to various legal subpoenas over the years (spoiler: its pretty much nothing).

Here are some cool links for you to check out:
https://signal.org/bigbrother/
https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/new-documents-reveal-government-effort-impose-secrecy-encryption

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is it beneficial for the government to have these tools? They already have such for internal use. I am sure that the officials do not use Signal. Why not kill Signal as an organization so that users don't even think of leaving WhatsApp?

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