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[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago (16 children)

If you don't earn over a million dollars a year then it's obvious that Biden is the right choice

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[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What the fuck is going on in the comments here?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's even worse here.

Literally the topic of the OP article is "If you look at what the economic situation is for workers in the US, it's almost as good as it was pre-Covid which is a goddamned miracle. It's not perfect, still a lot of people are struggling, but $15/hr being the new more-or-less entry level minimum wage and some increased union membership has produced real progress especially at the bottom end of the scale, when a lot of first-world economies are still struggling to dig themselves out even back to normal. Wage inequality is down, unemployment is the lowest it's been in decades, etc etc, Biden deserves some credit for that. Here are detailed citations to back all that up. It's weird that that's not the popular perception."

Then, go look at the comments and read them through. It's literally a nonstop tide of rando user accounts saying "but inflation stacks year on year, they don't know basic math" and "they just think stocks going up means the economy's better, they don't care people are hurting" and "my grocery bill is high things are real bad, I'm suffering, this article's not true." It's almost impossible to read the comments front to back and hold on in your head to the fact that they're objectively wrong. It's like Goebbels's propaganda theory in real time -- if you grab out one individual comment and analyze it and really think about it, compare it to evidence, it falls apart. But looking at them all together it really looks like there's this groundswell of opinion. It also makes it more or less impossible to actually have a conversation about the article because it gets swarmed with people talking discouraging nonsense and being apparently incapable of absorbing anything different.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

holy smokes ur right, it’s so bad (or maybe im so weak willed) that i genuinely can’t tell if you are the one full of b.s. or not (no offense to you im just trippin out over this)

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am biased, because I think I'm right and they are wrong, but to me it is instructive to look at an example like this

It removes it from that flood-of-unopposed-propaganda world and puts it into a more manageable context, like here are questions, and here's how people answer the questions or not.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe -1 points 8 months ago

thanks, i do see what you are saying

after much lip biting and teeth grinding i posted a comment which represents my position which i hope isn’t too enlightened centrist. you at least seem good faith so i’d appreciate your opinion lol

[–] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Organized election trolling starting to consider Lemmy?

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Organized election trolling starting to consider Lemmy ~~?~~

FTFY

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 8 months ago

Organized election trolling ~~starting to~~ consider Lemmy ~~?~~

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe -1 points 8 months ago

i am afraid

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The 1.2 million-member union, which also backed Biden in 2020 over Trump, represents workers in auto supply, glass, rubber, chemicals, pulp and paper, mining and other industries.

Union President David McCall said Biden’s leadership allowed workers to carve out more room for bargaining and better support for the middle class.

“His vision and leadership allowed our nation to strengthen workers’ access to collective bargaining, grow the middle class, and embark on a path to widespread prosperity.”

Biden has touted himself as the “most pro-union president in American history” and gotten backing from various labor unions, including the United Auto Workers, SEIU and the AFL-CIO.

McCall added that Trump has not reached out to him and the former president’s campaign didn’t even respond to its issues survey they sent out to all prospective presidential candidates in both parties.

The union’s leaders met with Biden last week while also previously meeting with third-party candidates Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Cornel West.


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