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A Toronto-based research team met with and surveyed some 10,000 Canadians about the state of the health-care system — and what they found is deep dissatisfaction and frustration with primary care as the country grapples with a severe shortage of family doctors.

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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Whats insane to me is there is a huge shortage of doctors but I know at least 4 or 5 people in my cohort that are on the 3rd or 4th attempt to get into med school, and these are decent applicants. Then when you do get in you're 6 figures in debt and signed up for 4-8 more years of schooling so of course everyone heads down to the states where you can make 2-3X what you would make here. Add the massive privatization push, awful working conditions for nurses, too much work/stress for not enough money and of course you're going to see a massive exodus out of the system. Its just a mess

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 18 points 8 months ago

You don't need to "add in" the massive privatization push, FWIW. All of these others things are a part of it. Step one in privatizing an overwhelmingly popular social service (and something that has been a key part of our national identity for a few generations now) is to... Break it.

Break it to the point where it stops being integral to people's understanding of the way things work.

This has been a long term strategy of starving the beast, and that is what has caused all of the rest.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nurses fleeing privatization are going to America?

Irony.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

For my understanding its more a combo of overwork/underpay. A bunch left the field altogether after having annual increases capped for years, it just wasn't worth it anymore. Might as well go somewhere where you'll get adequately compensated.

[–] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

I dunno how it is in the rest of Canada, but here in Ontario, the Conservatives are constantly undermining the public healthcare system because they very clearly want to privatize it. It's really annoying how they're trying to slyly erode faith in the public system and letting people fall through the cracks for no reason other than greed. It's blatant to anyone paying attention, but sadly, most people aren't.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

there is an artificial barrier to entry, at least in the united states.

we dont teach and train doctors in an appropriately scheduled, effective manner. if you read it into it, its objectively insane and only exists because 'thats the way its always been'

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

It's the same in Canada, not to mention schooling capacity for doctors and nurses has not changed in decades, despite our population booming.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Ohip doesn't cover shit anymore. None of my current ailments are covered by Ohip, even though they are issues that can keep me from working. Good thing I have a union and benefits or I'd be screwed

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

It's almost like years of saying "At least we aren't that guy" while pointing down south has allowed our healthcare system to be completely gutted by a team of private entities and government officials.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A Toronto-based research team met with and surveyed some 10,000 Canadians about the state of the health-care system — and what they found is deep dissatisfaction and frustration with primary care as the country grapples with a severe shortage of family doctors.

The OurCare Initiative — led by Dr. Tara Kiran, a family doctor and scientist with the MAP Centre for Urban Health Solutions at Toronto's St. Michael's Hospital — conducted a national survey, assembled five "provincial priorities panels" and convened a series of community roundtables over the past 16 months.

It's one of the most comprehensive surveys ever conducted on Canadians' views of the health system and it provides crucial data on the poor state of primary care access in a growing and aging country.

The report found evidence of what it calls an "attachment crisis" — an estimated 22 per cent of Canadian adults (about 6.5 million people) do not have a family doctor or nurse practitioner they can see regularly.

The OurCare report concludes that the best way to solve Canadians' crisis of confidence in primary care is with a relatively straightforward, if elusive, fix: bring in more doctors and nurse practitioners.

The federal government's latest health accord with the provinces — and a series of bilateral side deals — amount to a meaningful improvement but they don't deliver all the country needs, Kiran said.


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