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Why some community's appear empty in kbin while if you go to their instance they have posts? (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by Fgbd009@kbin.social to c/fediverse@kbin.social

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Why some community's appear empty in kbin while if you go to their instance they have posts?

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[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Fgbd009 There could be different reasons for this. One is that federation with the home instance might be broken or slow.

Another reason has to do with the way the activitypub protocol that the Fediverse is designed around, basically assumes you're only interested in new content when you subscribe to a magazine/community.

For what it's worth, I've discussed why this causes problems for new users in more detail here:
https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/131225/Making-threadiverse-communities-more-discoverable-some-suggestions

[–] fearout@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I understand, to see the posts you need at least someone from your instance to subscribe to a given community, and only after that you'll see new posts going forward (fediverse pushes content to other instances instead of pulling all the content on request). And you won't see any pre-subscription posts anyway, since it's apparently a lot like actual irl magazine subscriptions — you only get the new stuff once you subscribe.

So, subscribe and wait for a day or two, and you should see new posts appear in your feed.

[–] shepherd@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like it would be nice to pull at least some content when the first person opens the box lol. Maybe the last 10-100 posts, or from the past 30-90 days, or whatever.

Maybe do this kind of smaller sync every time another user subscribes to it until it's fully synced up, 'cause that means we all really want the content lol.

Kbin could do that independently right? Or would ActivityPub need to change to allow that?

[–] fearout@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure it's currently baked into the protocol. But instances themselves could probably add crawlers to fetch a few recent posts. You might want to ask @kbinMeta about that.

[–] MoogleMaestro@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there are policies from some instances on Mastodon around crawling so it would have to be done carefully and preserve server sovereignty.

[–] fearout@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I kinda get it for microblogging platforms, the content is probably changing too quickly for that. Do any Lemmy/kbin instances have similar rules? Fetching something like top-10 posts of the week doesn’t really add any serious traffic.

But an api call made specifically for that is definitely a better option. I wonder if it’s being discussed between the devs.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is your instance federated with the community's? I know on lemmy it will look empty at chest if you're the first to view it from your instance.

[–] Fgbd009@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

From what I noticed some of the communities that the posts don't appear are nsfw and require you to sign up if you are going through their instance, but since is federated why while being logged in in kbin the posts are not visible?

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