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Helldivers: We'll "never" add a PvP-mode. This is to reduce toxic elements from the community. We want an environment that's supportive, fun and where we all are fighting on the same side. (twitter.com)

submitted 8 months ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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Nitter link: https://twiiit.com/Pilestedt/status/1757804756666339420 (Now fixed!) Might have to use this link multiple times to find a instance that isn’t rate limited or check the wiki and change the url manually.

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[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 75 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If there's no PvP, why do they need a rootkit for anticheat?

[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 59 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So you don't steal the microtransactions

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 46 points 8 months ago

So you don't liberate the microtransactions, you mean.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So... the PC in my living room is actually a VM with a dedicated GPU (PCI passthrough).
I wonder what are the odds of this game even running or falsely flagging me...

[–] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No clue, but VM gaming (Windows on Linux) last I heard was a royal pain.

Wine/Proton, however, funnily enough...might work. Or at least, Valve is interested in it working.

[–] StormTrooper626@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Helldivers 2 works pretty good with proton.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Wait so how does the rootkit bs work when using proton?

[–] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 12 points 8 months ago

Apparently GameGuard is the type of anticheat that's fine with the way other anti cheats have been made available on Linux; i.e. giving kernel-level calls the ol run around to userspace and pretending it's Windows behavior. which is incredibly funny

Hopefully NProtect doesn't go after Riot Games' approach and make their product like Vanguard, which isn't defeated so easily.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

In some cases it fails to run properly which can and does flag users as cheaters. I've had a few long back and forths with a few different support teams to get accounts unbanned for exactly that.

[–] Glitchington@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

So this comment made me do some research.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/proton

Under "Known Proton Issues" the point "Anti cheat". Seems like there is a user-space solution for Proton, avoiding the need for a kernel-space anti cheat.

It's not perfect, and be as paranoid as you see appropriate, but I'm a bit relieved to have found that info. Another win for Proton in my book.

[–] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

I mean... Nothing is stopping people from setting up ad-hoc PvP matches, is there ? I think Magicka PvP started as a grassroots thing back in the day, before there even were proper arenas in the game.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 months ago

The most toxic multiplayer interactions are always from your own team