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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

The special counsel, who is not in a position to make a mental fitness assessment, who is not trained or qualified to do so, who was not tasked with doing so, decided that not remembering the years certain events took place in (as if Biden was a living resume and not a person) is a sign of some sort of memory problem.

Forgive me if I don't worry about the guy making the kinds of memory errors most of us do.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Hmmm... someone releasing a politically damaging report just before an election?

Stop me if you've heard this one:

https://www.propublica.org/article/problems-with-fbi-clinton-email-investigation-went-well-beyond-comey

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

Forgive me if I don’t worry about the guy making the kinds of memory errors most of us do.

Indeed. I was very close with my paternal grandparents. They both passed in the same year.

I couldn't tell you what year that was.

Most people don't mentally catalogue events according to the date.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

He had a memory problem, while…

…checks notes…

…defending his memory.

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

corporate media carrying water for Trump, same old

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Fake news! /s

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only nightmare I see is Trump. Biden having to step to his Vice after the election is not the worst scenario

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Obviously trump is unacceptable and I am voting for Biden again but...I really fear another Feinstein situation. He's doing ok now but at his age shit can go downhill so fucking fast.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And so can Trump. Toby Keith was younger than both. I'd rather see a Weekend At Bernie'd Biden bow to Harris after the election than have the incumbent be ditched during a raving populist parade.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Very clearly saying trump would be even worse. But in a perfect world we would have someone we don't have to worry about with that at all. Oh well.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

That is not necessarily true. In a perfect world, all would have ample time, energy, and resources to participate in their governance without it becoming a burden. Anything else will eventually return to some form of fuedalism as the governed populace loses their opportunity to participate.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Feinstein > Trump

Literal dementia riddled psychopath > Trump

Even zombie Joe Biden a la "Kingdom" > Trump

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yep. My post made that clear.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am under 50 and I gotta do math to figure out what age my parents are. I gotta think for a second to remember my daughter's birth date, and I have made mistakes putting my age down or writing the current year.

I have no dementia or senescence. Biden sounds like he is doing great at his age, and probably compared to mine too.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You’re not “leader of the free world though.”

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Point is, these aren’t really a cognition issue.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Your comment made me think of this for some reason.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They're both too old and out of touch. It's an embarrassment that either of these candidates are "the best we got".

Neither party gives a fuck about Americans, only gaining power and wealth.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're not the best, they're the most popular with old people

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We keep running candidates popular with the elderly, and the elderly people running the parties claim they dont know why turn out with people under retirement age is so bad....

Because they apparently can't remember Obama and Clinton were two of our youngest presidents ever and got there on the youth vote

Maybe we also shouldn't have elderly people running the parties or running for office?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Maybe if young people would fucking vote, that would change

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Apt username for this comment.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago

It would be virtually impossible for anyone else to challenge him at this point; the deadline has passed in more than 30 states to get on primary ballots.

There's still a convention, and the Democratic party is a private organization, it can run whatever selection method it wants on whatever schedule it wants. If it's bad enough that the party really wants to find an alternative, they can do it.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hate that our government has so many elderly people in it. This idea that wisdom comes with age is the dumbest shit ever created. It's even worse cause this is our only non-Trump option. The lesser of 2 idiots.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Most people do gain wisdom as they age. Most people also get enough wisdom to get out of the way before 80. There's basically no one over 70 that hasn't experienced some level of cognitive decline.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Now, the distinctions may be harder for Biden allies to draw, given that Hur wrote that there was evidence Biden “willfully retained and disclosed classified material after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen.”

The report mentions an instance in February 2017, when he was no longer vice president, when Biden read notes containing classified information “nearly verbatim” to a ghostwriter helping him with his book, “Promise Me, Dad.”

Storage of sensitive government secrets was haphazard. The report describes certain classified records involving the war in Afghanistan in Biden’s Delaware garage inside a “badly damaged box surrounded by household detritus.”

It's bad when Biden does it.

It's bad when trump does it.

Why can't we have an option that doesn't do this shit?

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You should read the parts about why he decided not to recommend prosecution, which includes not being able to show Biden knew the documents were classified. Biden found classified documents in his office, alerted the government, and cooperated fully with the resulting investigation. To imply in any way that there any comparison to what Trump did is pretty disingenuous.

[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

And so did Mike pence, lest we all forget that he was part of this too. IIRC, most of the documents were things like daily agendas that were classified bc of the identities of participants at meetings. Not, say, nuclear secrets....

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The government also over classifies everything. I wouldn't be surprised if 99% of the classified stuff in both cases wasn't actually important. It seems like Trump tried to take some important things, but we'll never know how much.

Treating everything as classified that these top officials see leads to poor practices.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Sounds like someone has never held a security clearance but still has opinions...

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden sidestepped any criminal charges as the investigation into his handling of classified documents concluded, but the political blowback from the special counsel’s report Thursday could prove even more devastating, reinforcing impressions that he is too old and impaired to hold the highest office.

It was tough enough for Biden to reassure voters about his heath before Hur’s report hit like a thunderclap Thursday afternoon, prompting members of his own party to question whether he could remain the nominee in November.

“It’s a nightmare,” said a Democratic House member who asked to speak anonymously to provide a frank assessment, adding that “it weakens President Biden electorally, and Donald Trump would be a disaster and an authoritarian.”

Though Biden was fortunate to escape indictment, the special counsel report may give Trump additional fodder as he fights charges for allegedly mishandling classified records at his Mar-a-Lago social club.

The report mentions an instance in February 2017, when he was no longer vice president, when Biden read notes containing classified information “nearly verbatim” to a ghostwriter helping him with his book, “Promise Me, Dad.”

The report describes certain classified records involving the war in Afghanistan in Biden’s Delaware garage inside a “badly damaged box surrounded by household detritus.”


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[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

4 more years!