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I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.

Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.

The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as "we'll just handle it") plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.

Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.

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[–] kyle@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

110% agree.

I could say "you know, I guess I can kinda see why people thought free market capitalism would work"

And someone will come out of the woodwork like "I can't believe you think billionaires profiting off exploitation is actually a good idea"

First of all, no? Lol I'm saying I understand why people might think it would work, but for some reason forget that we as a people are generally selfish. Human nature and corruption and all that, people in power hoard power.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So basically you're saying capitalism would work if human nature were completely different? Gee I wonder why people don't take your views seriously.

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

The irony is palpable.

What if corporations didn't count as people? If they didn't worship the almighty dollar and put profits over people? Could capitalism work?

No idea, probably not, but I'm not an economist. And humans are notoriously bad at screwing up basically every form of government.

Also, that wasn't my viewpoint, but you gotta admit that a lot of things in life would be better if human nature were completely (positively) different. Our lizard brains are wired for self preservation.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Wait, are you not being sarcastic...?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

thats precisely why anarchism is so criticized as being naive.

there are actual proven methods for the people to organize and seize power from the burgeois and current aristocracy.

people just refuse to believe it and instead go for the ages-old red scare propaganda for their opinions about it, and they just feel impotent then.

yall will have to find out what leftism actually is, then be open to changing your minds in many respects.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it -2 points 10 months ago

I am happy we could build a community where there is little nuance on Capitalism. Being a long-term Redditor, A was used to nuance, and whataboutism.

I don't believe in extremisms, it's just nice to see.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 10 months ago

Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad

Perhaps it’s you who isn’t bringing the nuance

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just ask them to point to a successful communist country.

Last I heard Vietnam was one and doing good, but that’s it.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (34 children)

Humans have been trying to make Capitalism "work" for the past 400 years. It. Doesn't. Work. We're now at an extinction level event due to just how atrociously bad Capitalism is for the human species (and all species for that matter) .

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