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[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 49 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

"But thanks to Reaganomics, prison turned to profits

'Cause free labor's the cornerstone of US economics

'Cause slavery was abolished, unless you are in prison

You think I am bullshittin', then read the 13th Amendment

Involuntary servitude and slavery it prohibits

That's why they givin' drug offenders time in double digits."

Killer Mike - Reagan

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 months ago

Fuck Ronald Regan

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages.

My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true.

But the facts and the evidence tell me it is not.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is that what we're calling slaves now? A hidden workforce?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They're not slaves. They get paid ~~25¢ per hour~~! /s

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There was a plan at one point to outsource drive through window speaker boxes to prison labor. Not sure whatever became of that.

And that's if they're lucky!

https://www.al.com/news/2023/12/fast-food-chains-use-alabama-prison-inmates-as-slave-labor-lawsuit-alleges.html

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's the newest trend in Work From Home.

Introducing..... Work From Cell!

[–] white_shotgun@aussie.zone 8 points 9 months ago

No great surprise.... It's a leopard never changes it's spots type of thing

[–] MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Before I started reading that article, I was slightly in support of prison labor. Everything I read about incarceration is that it's incredibly expensive.

I thought it would understandable to help offset the costs, not actually make money. I didn't see anything in the article that put over all costs and profits into context. I can't imagine those systems are actually generating more money than the total costs of incarceration, but I have no idea.

Then I got to the parts about safety, inappropriate/illegal? coercion, and abuse. I know there's some worse places to be in prison in the world, but still.

We used to make people do stupid shit like break rocks just for punishment, but I don't see how that rehabilitates. Learning job skills is good, nice to hear a few people were bettered and got jobs, but legislators in those states probably need to be harassed until we get prisoners treated in appropriate ways.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is the prisons are for profit.

Prisons get money from state for taking care of prisoners

Prisons put workers to work at slave wages.

State reps get kickbacks from Prisons to encourage more incarceration.

Police happily target black people and minorities and get them sent to prison

Prisoners work for slave wages

Rinse repeat.

If the Prisons were state run not for profit, this might work out better, but that's often not the case.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You forgot to mention that the prisons are trauma-factories designed to have "repeat costumers", breaking down people into a million little pieces, to be built up as better, harder, more well connected and well educated criminals.

Who knew, that all these years after, those politicians who called prisons "revolving doors" was sort of correct.

It wasn't because they weren't "hard on crime" enough, but that the court systems and prison systems actively creates repeat offenders.

Reformist prisons may seem more expensive, but it will save society a ton of money in the long run.

Someone tell the politicians.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Good points.

Got a really good laugh from repeat costumers auto correct lol.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 3 points 9 months ago

Something something SOYLENT GREEN!