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Often times when duckduckgoing (is that the right term for that) advice for products, I use the !ddgr key to directly search reddit for advice. But in a post-blackout world, I need to do this a lot less. So I want to know what the best places are to get reviews and advice for products that are human and not top 10 listicals.

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[–] Zebrazilla@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you still want to target reddit, without overtly giving traffic to reddit, I highly recommend one of the many LibReddit instances. And with something like LibRedirect you could still be doing !ddgr and click any reddit links, and always get redirected directly to an appropriate LibReddit instance.

[–] Haunting_Tale_5150@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Doing that! But still would like an alternative for reddit.

[–] -hypnotoad-@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Libreddit will lose access after June 30 correct? Didn't know about the project until I joined Kbin.

[–] Midou@kbin.projectsegfau.lt 9 points 1 year ago

They don't know what should they do at this point, they wanted to scrape the website (which is what teddit plans to do) but saw that it would be too muc work, then they said they would use graphQL and now they want to cache requests to reduce the API usage while asking for the instance admins to provide the private key. They made a poll on github on wether they should make the telemetry of sending the number of requests in a totally private way, and the majority was fine, but the devs were still skeptical on adding this feature, so yeah, libreddit doesn't have a bright future currently.

[–] kemsat@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Can I link one of those directly into kbin? I’m on mobile if it makes a difference

[–] tojikomori@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only had occasional luck with this even on Reddit. Some smaller subs for hobby stuff had genuinely good advice, but a lot of times it'd just be people repeating the same brands and products with a shallow recommendation. And there was a lot of astroturfing. Over the years I've learned to ask elsewhere:

For major appliances, the best approach I've found is to find a local business – a well reputed one that's been around for years, and does service as well as sales – and simply ask the salespeople what they recommend. If the shop's willing to warranty it, it's probably good enough.

For gadgets I tend to start looking at recognizable review sites that are easy to skim (RTINGS is especially useful, but Ars, The Verge etc. all have decent reviews) and then expand out to YouTube for the products I'm most interested in. Sometimes it's a good idea to look up the company itself for anything that might change your mind about them (Western Digital's unlabeled change to SMR drives is a recent example).

Shoes and clothes are the hardest thing to get good advice on. The most useful advice I've received has been very general stuff about what to look for in fit and quality. I've also found that high ethical standards from a clothing company tends to go hand in hand with quality and longevity.

Cars are an area where Reddit was still helpful. YouTube can be helpful here, but not so much typical car review channels: the most helpful YouTube videos are often from people who've owned a particular model for a year or so and can speak with experience about its quirks.

Finally, and most of all, I've learned to check the instinct to look up reviews. It's worth spending some time to research stuff between you and the ground, or that you'll use daily, but I've wasted too many hours comparing details that really don't matter. Make sure it's something you legitimately care about before you reach for other people's opinions.

[–] darkevilmac@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Be careful on that appliance recommendation strategy. Even small businesses salespeople receive kickbacks from manufacturers. And pretty much every service plan from a store these days is underwritten by someone like Assurant.

If you can get in touch with either someone in customer service or a repair tech then you'll get the best info.

Customer service generally has the incentives in the right place. If they tell you something isn't returned often then that means they don't have to deal with you coming back and complaining for no monetary benefit to themselves.

There's also lots of channels on YouTube from small appliance repair companies and they're more than willing to tell you who sucks.

[–] theatremaker@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a buy it for life community here on Lemmy/Kbin yet? If there’s something like that, maybe asking questions here would generate some okay responses. It won’t be as immediate, but it would also help grow the amount of useful info we have in the fediverse.

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] charcoalhibiscus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Bless you, stranger

[–] spider@vlemmy.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In North America, Consumer Reports magazine.

They're independent and don't accept advertising, but are subscription-based. You can usually find them at your local library (i.e., hard copies or sometimes in their online database).

[–] lemonflavoured@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

The equivalent in the UK would be Which?

[–] somegeek@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

welp. shouldn't Kbin, lemmy, etc. become the new reddit slowly? So I guess after a while we will have pretty good guides and answers in these platforms.

[–] sentient_loom@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

YouTube is great, but I prefer reading the review so I can skim more easily.

[–] pterodactyl@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

A lot of the time they're niche specific, I would have found out about a lot of smaller sites from reddit and then just switched to searching them directly once I had a better understanding.

e.g. every second post in retro games subs was always "how much is this worth" and the answer is use pricecharting.com, analog camera subs or analog repair invariably reference butkus, there's heaps of small archives, wikis and old community forums out there for anything you can imagine.

If there's specific niches you're interested in maybe ask in those forums here, they might be able to point you somewhere.

[–] RheingoldRiver@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For expensive electronics, I search some reviews. Then I google "{device_model_number} problems" or "{device_model_number} not working" and see what the results are like. I buy one that didn't have a lot of results there.

Sadly, the results are usually from reddit. But you also get some various hardware discussion forums and such.

[–] charcoalhibiscus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it’s home-related (or services) I’ve had decent luck with Nextdoor.

[–] Can_you_change_your_username@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lots of variation in quality for nextdoor. It depends on where you live since they group by neighborhoods. I left nextdoor during the pandemic because it was a never ending stream of rightwing talking points about vaccines and shutdowns.

[–] charcoalhibiscus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Alas! Yeah I saw a fair bit of that go by but mostly ignored it; my area is fairly diverse politically so there were people yelling into the void and also people who weren’t. I definitely wouldn’t recommend it for just like, hanging out and chatting with people, but they’ve been pretty good at least where I am about recommendations. Maybe that does vary by how crappy your neighbors are, though.

[–] MiataMan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Where I live nextdoor is a SM shitshow nothing but Whining astroturfing illiterates

If Facebook was
“people you know talking and things you don’t care about”
And Reddit was
“people you don’t know talking about things you care about”
Then nextdoor is
“people you don’t care about talking about crap you don’t care about

[–] Jon-H558@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know if there really is anymore. I started to notice Reddit was being gamed by bought posters.

Maybe something like signing up for Which.co.uk (apparently consumer reports in US) where you pay for impartial reviews. at least if you are the customer of which they may be more.impartial than internet sites where you are the product to me marketed to.

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