Jerboa

Well, the user's preference for sorting algorithm have to be communicated somehow from the jerboa client to the Lemmy server.

But from a user interface point of view, if the sorting is happening in the server or the client doesn't make they much difference.

However, from a user to control point of view, I think it should be always possible for the client to do its own sorting.

There is no danger of losing chronological ordering , if the chronological sort is happening inside the user's device.

Also there are privacy implications, I might want to train my algorithm to sort content recommendation based on what I like. That doesn't mean I want to disclose this information to the server. In particular if I'm not on an instance that I trust not to exploit this information to leverage advertising against me.

Also, content discovery does not work well if users don't share their preferences to each other. But the server doesn't need to know this information. User might exchange this information ins peer to peer manner and keep the server out of the loop.

This would disempower the instance owners from the ability to tip the scales of content curation, since they don't know what posts users like and client request unbiased sequential listing of content which the client itself will sort later.

Then use chronological ordering if you want random new things.

In fact, if what you really want is "stuff not like I've seen before" then dislike what you've seen and that will train the algorithm to show you things not you've seen.

One way or the other, there will be an algorithm that sorts the content your seeing because your can't read millions of posts and comments per second, your device has to decide what to show.

You choices are, you control the algorithm in your computer or someone else controls the algorithm while you use someone else's computer (that's the cloud).

I didn't realize this! Do you know if that setting can be changed in Jerboa?

Would this work on mobile as well? Does it require clicking into a thread to consider it viewed?

You did not fully read my post. I explicitly mention a chronological view.

Content sorting algorithm are inevitable. How will you personally sort 5 million post per day ?

What I'm saying is they must be under individual user control. And taking part in content sorting is a duty of every Lemmy user.

The problem with hide past by scroll is, every post you see, you have to interact with it or what it disappears forever.

I find that tedious and distracting sometimes I might not reject something right now, but maybe I don't want to interact it right now.

Maybe if I scroll past two or three times without interaction, then yes, it shouldn't show it again. Maybe even have a display of how many scroll past are left before it disappears forever. If I see a zero, and still feel I might want to see it some day, then I'll take action.

This is exactly what I'm waiting for, Joey spoiled me over the years, so smooth at removing posts I'd already scrolled past

Yes, neutral vote is functionally the same as "hide this" but as an explicit vote that means "I have no feeling about this one way or the other". I think a neutral vote gives useful information for content discovery. Imagine a content with 500 positive vote 25 negative vote and 25000 neutral vote.

The most important aspect of content discovery is the relation of your vote relative to all your other vote. This is how the algorithm can find things you might like based on what other things you like.

The current algorithms which lack a neutral vote, have no concept of mediocrity. It's good or bad, they don't understand "this is ok but meh"

I concur, this feels like early Reddit. I really care that it don't suck. Tired of getting evicted every 10 years by techbro dorks looking to make a quick buck

Boost also had this and then a clue other variants which made my feeds nice and clean.