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Creator behind hugely popular Skyrim co-op mod gives up on the Starfield version of it because, drum roll please, 'this game is f***ing trash' (www.pcgamer.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Whiskeyomega@kbin.social to c/PCGaming@kbin.social

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"I didn't realize this until after I actually started playing the damn game a week after launch."

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[–] quortez@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Not even mods can save this game, Todd. How many more sweet little lies will you tell?

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I enjoy how it sounds like the guy didn't even start out by playing the game, but rather started modding right away. I do get that. The coding itself is fun.

But yeah, the guy could also be making an own game, if it was just about the coding. At some point, you do want your mod to be part of a game worth playing.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Modding an existing game is rarely comparable to the complexity of creating the game from scratch.

Adding assets and changing dialigue in and existing dialoge framework are accessible to a lot of people who are not up to designing physics and hitboxes. AAA titles require vast teams of people to get the skeleton and muscles of the game right, and mods are generally the hair coloring and nail polish.

That isn't to say creating mods is inherently easy or anything, but it is tweaking an existing thing and not comparable to building it from scratch.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but some game engines out there do give you quite a bit to work with, too.

And well, I was talking specifically about the guy enjoying the coding without necessarily caring about the end result (like he'd do, if he patched up Starfield without enjoying the game).
If that were the case, even designing the physics can be a fun riddle.

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

That is a teensy-tiny problem compared to what has to be done to make a game like Starfield. Go look at the credits. Now understand that each of those teams had weeks or even months where they worked 60-80 hours to solve problems or design things or write or rewrite the story to fit a problem that the programmers can't solve. Now, imagine putting all that work on one dev or even a tiny dev team. And now you know why the market isn't flooded by indie dev games of this size and complexity. There is a reason why so many people involved in games burn out quickly - they are often ground down by the grueling work.

You are also conflating ability to do one thing really well with being able to do all things really well.