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[–] cerevant@lemm.ee 116 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Hey dad, the WiFi in my dorm room keeps cutting out”

“Have you gotten your Ethernet hooked up yet?”

“Hey dad, when I try to stream TV, it keeps buffering”

“Have you gotten your Ethernet hooked up yet?”

Someday they’ll get it.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair, a decent WiFi setup shouldn't do that either.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

There are no decent WiFi setups in college dorms.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Key word, shouldn't

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ethernet is awesome. Super fast, doesn't matter how many people are using it, it functions as a hardware dead-switch and you can decorate your house with lovely blue cables everywhere.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not to forget: The cables are so sturdy you can strangle attackers with them. Comes in handy sometimes.

[–] midori@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, shit. We're dealing with a sysadmin.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Very true, and if you arrange them carefully they can even trip unsuspecting invaders. Built in home defence.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Haha, when I first moved into the house I'm living in now, my wife was never done tripping over my cable. I'd yet to mount it to the wall at that point....

[–] humancrayon@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

They are also strong enough to pull down stray branches stuck in a tree.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Let's hope it never has to come to that....

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I personally like ethernet because it's so reliable & I've never had any problems. In my house WiFi can be so unreliable, whereas ethernet has been nothing but awesome....

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah for sure. I have both in my house and you just can't beat ethernet. Wifi is great for taking the laptop to the couch though or for phones and such too

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea WiFi is definitely great for certain things, but not everything. My wife has friends over at the house from time to time, and some of them ask why I'd rather run a cable from the router to my computer instead of just using WiFi. It's easy enough to explain, but because they are not all that technical, it's hard for them to understand, I guess....

[–] gramathy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

For me it’s more that I have enough devices that if they were all on WiFi they would be eating all the airtime and the devices that need WiFi would have worse bandwidth.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same, with my house being a faraday cage from the aluminum siding and insulation WiFi is not happy in my home. I just switched from WiFi doorbells to PoE because they would disconnect every few minutes.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

POE is an amazing invention

[–] aard@kyu.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ethernet is awesome. Super fast, doesn't matter how many people are using it,

You wanted to say "Switched Ethernet is awesome". The big problem of Etherpad before that was the large collision domain, which made things miserable with high load. What Ethernet had going for it before that was the low price - which is why you've seen 10base2 setups commonly in homes, while companies often preferred something like Token Ring.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Seriously? This is 2023, we don't have to pay homage to, or clarify our language regarding implementations and topologies that only a tiny fraction of current users are even aware they exist, and most of those have only read about them in a book, or manual.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

Sir, this is a technology community!

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One day Ethernet will be replaced with a new technology. It will be called Ethernet.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

I FUCKING LOVE ETHERNET

[–] randombullet@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I run fiber because fiber SFPs are cheaper than copper lol.

But if it doesn't move in my house, it's wired.

[–] deur@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think they might also use Ethernet? Usually "Ethernet" refers to the copper Ethernet cable, but I am 99% sure Fiber uses Ethernet too.

Just sharing since I'm deploying my Fiber setup at home in a bit...

[–] randombullet@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ethernet is a layer 1/2 standard, so it is technically it's anything covered under IEEE 802.3.

But for most folks Ethernet is a copper patch cable and a copper port.

My comment was more directed at the unholy costs of copper SFPs and their heat when dealing with multigig setups.

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I had my house reinsulated last year I took the opportunity to run cables from every room to a small closet, and then a run from that closet to the router. Had some... experience, learning how to wire in the sockets, and right now only my office is connected with a bit of patch instead of the switch I'll eventually need to get the other rooms live, but it's so much more reliable than it was with WiFi or poweline. Not to mention that those technologies only just kept up with the 36Mb VDSL I've been stuck on for the last 10 years. Having ethernet means I'll actually be able to get the most out of the 500Mb FttP I'm getting next month.

[–] philpo@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When we renovated we put Ethernet everywhere - according to my sparky we might have more ports than some medium businesses he did.

...And I still find areas where I would need one or two more. ...And I am still mad at myself for not putting a run into the kitchen and the bathroom.

[–] Elonkilledmydad@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why do you find that you need a drop in the bathroom?

[–] kadu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

How else would I get great signal integrity for the bathroom 4K camera?

[–] philpo@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Smart Speakers. And it turned out it would have been the perfect spot for one of the hotspots.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And here I am, still running wi-fi at home like a pleb.

My city is installing fiber over the next couple years, so I'll finally run the cables when that happens, but it's such a chore. I've put it off so long that running fiber is probably the way to go at this point. New Internet should support 10gbit, so maybe it's worth it.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

You should totally go ahead and do it. It will be totally worth it....