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Things that make me angry about my current smartphone Samsung Galaxy S21Ultra on a Verizon plan is the mandatory software updates in which they install WITHOUT MY PERMISSION stupid apps like Netflix and addictive gambling games and stacking block games and Candy crush. God knows what else they install without my permission. I don't want any of it!

Next phone I buy I want to start with a clean slate, I'm not going to affiliate with any conglomerate like Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile etc, I prefer to go rogue somehow,

which smartphone do you recommend that has no bloatware and it's customizable?

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[–] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Those are plagued with security issues.

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm happy with Motorola. I don't buy high end phones though, as I don't care about paying 400 extra for a good camera.

I have a G42

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just picked up a new Motorola phone myself, and it does install TikTok and a few other apps by default, so not sure if OP would like that. They were easy enough to uninstall though.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I forgot about that, mine had Facebook, but it didnt come back with updates.

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I kind of gagged a little at the sight of TikTok being installed, but really liking the phone so far. Coming from a one plus phone, I really appreciate the stock android

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[–] StickBugged@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I've got a g31 which I've had for about a year, and the only thing I don't really like about it is the lack of custom ROMs and stuff like that

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[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Google Pixel or Nothing phone

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[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A Pixel with GrapheneOS is okay but you don't get Android Auto, which kinda sucks.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

ooh no problem I despise android auto and glad it doesn't force my phone to connect every time I start driving the way it did at the beginning, I had to dig into the settings and figure out how to disable it.

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[–] tanakian@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"smartphone" doesn't matter. it is a computer that runs software. the only question is who controls that software? free/libre software is by definition one that you control. and what you described means that you dont control your device.

so advices: easy way is to just install lineage os or graphene or some other open source android version. you will control it. i dont advice to install google play services.

other advice: you can get a sony phone because it can run sailfish os. also i believe those are great. otherwise install open source android, lineage or something.

sailfish has android emulator (it costs money) but sailfish is not android. it is a linux/qt based system. very polished. not as polished as open source android, but it is fast, lightweight and beautiful. native sailfish apps arent feature rich but do you really need feature rich? then you can get more apps from fdroid store and use android emulation layer.

other, better but harder option: get a device which is well supported by postmarketos.

postmarketos has several user interfaces but neither of those is what you have used to. i believe it is the best option but you must prepare yourself to be able to change. most probably you wont have a working camera. thats ok, i live like that.

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