One of my older family members even mentioned that they heard about a Reddit blackout, so it definitely is being talked about.
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My local sub did a "brown out" and they even messed that up lol
The Reddit CEO was just on NPR being interviewed.
And yet I read something about them taking over one of the popular subs (adviceanimals or something) and removing all the mods and making it public again...
What happened was the top mod, who had been inactive for a while, came online and overrode the other mod's decision to stay open. This caused a moderator dispute, which caused the admins to step in, and they decided to remove the top mod and reopen the sub.
https://lemmy.intai.tech/comment/31833
(And if Reddit was maliciously forcing subs open, why would they choose r/AdviceAnimals?)
If the CEO got caught editing comments and posts, how do I know he didn't just pretend to be a defunct mod lol
Probably because it's one of their front page subs? My guess at least. Maybe the CEOs favorite π€£
r/adviceanimals doesn't have pictures of underage girls, so u/spez obviously has no interest in it.
The mods knew this was a risk going in. If anything, it just shows that reddit doesn't care about its users. They're ostracizing a large portion of their mods. If there is no one to moderate their site, they're going to realize why they needed their users very quickly.
Think it would have been a more effective protest if mods got together (think it was 24k from all the blackout subs?) and said they would remove themselves as moderators if reddit didn't budge. Reddit would in no way function if that amount of mods stopped moderating
Yeah there would be gore or CP everywhere very quickly ESPECIALLY if the users valued the increase in chaos. People would probably be actively posting full length Disney movies and "questionable" porn to stir shit up.
Not a bad article. A bit light on details and the effects and consequences of Reddit's changes. However, many articles I've seen from other mainstream news organizations were slanted towards the corporate bias and made it sound like the concerns were no big deal.
CBC often does this with Business reporting. In their story about the InstantPot bankruptcy they neglected to mention that the reason the company was $500 million in debt is because they were acquired by a private equity firm who then took out a $500 million loan in the company's name and used it to pay themselves a huge dividend, earning about $150 million in instant profit.
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Didnt know the apollo dev is from halifax.... Makes me even more angry that reddit CEO tried to make him look like a liar
everyone on the internet is secretly Canadian .
I wonder if theyβll make a Lemmy client like how the tweetbot devs made ivory for mastodon
I'd love it if the 3rd party developers burned by Reddit started developing for Lemmy/kbin/Mastodon. First, there is lots of opportunity to make Lemmy and the rest of the Fediverse more user friendly without sacrificing the benefits of federation. Second, it's an open source ecosystem. The more developers in the space, the better for everyone.
It might require a significant amount of work to transition from the Apollo API to Lemmy. yesterday, I peeked at the Lemmy and Reddit APIs out of curiosity and they aren't exactly similarity. So, there are two potential paths forward for the developer: either build a translation layer to preserve their existing code base, or undertake a complete re-engineering of there code base.
There's also the challenge of identifying functional Lemmy instances, which brings us to a complex issue that was raised on Rust reddit thread about possible using Lemmy https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/14921t7/alternative_rust_discussion_venues/. Where some concerning information regarding the lemmy dev was brought up.
This Mastodon post (https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379) seems to imply some socio-political implications. Although I can't fully understand the context, it appears to be related to concerns about human rights oppression associated with Lemmy's developersβ (https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/143o5xd/reconsidering_my_support_for_lemmy/
This issue is apparently severe enough that Fedi.Tips, decided to withdraw there support for Lemmy. The developers have seemingly not addressed these concerns since they were raised.
So ya, Lemmy isn't exactly a squeaky clean project currently
So lets just not register on the instances they run?
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I'm trying Jerboa, on the f-droid app store (Android).
Hey me too. It isn't bad, I miss RiF but this has a similar feel. Wish it was easier to see my subscriptions, I suspect I'll get smoother with time
Too bad there was no mention of decentralised alternates like Lemmy or kbin.
As discussed elsewhere, that might not be such a bad thing. Ramping up slowly will work much better than all of Reddit suddenly showing up at lemmy.ml and expecting it to be a fully polished* Reddit.
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publicity is good, but wish they would have taken two exta seconds to explain the nuance of the issue.
It's not just that Reddit will start charging for API calls, but that the price was outrageously high, extortionate even.
Many will read this article, and others like it, and automatically side with Reddit, because "it sounds fair that apps with heavy API usage should contribute to the cost", completely missing the part the Reddit is trying to bankrupt the third part app developers.
wish they would have taken two exta seconds to explain the nuance of the issue.
Most users on Reddit don't really understand the nuance, either.
Even though there has been tons of threads in most of the subreddits trying to explain it.
I'm annoyed that the imgur pricing didn't make the article, which I thought was the most illuminating comparison. Leading the pricing details with $2.50/person/month sounds very "that's all?" at surface level
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How come Reddit's hosting costs are so high? It's a content aggregator so mostly directs to other sites. While for original content, it used to rely on Imgur for hosting images, does it not anymore? And text content shouldn't use that much resources or maybe I'm wrong?
I don't believe their hosting costs are that high. But they did go from about 700 employees to somewhere around 2000 employees. I suspect a lot of their overhead is headcount.
instead of giving the site a working search feature after 15 years, they doubled down on year end wrap ups, vertical videos, chat, and other nonsense
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This doesn't get mentioned enough. They drastically increased their workforce during covid. That is a massive new expense and what exactly do they have to show for it? Has Reddit improved in that time? I don't see that it has. Now suddenly this bizarre API move. None of it adds up to good leadership to me.
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It really realllly shouldn't be they host comment sections for links to other more technically impressive websites.
Like we are talking about a cost they willing absorbed for like 10 years running without noteworthy complaint. Yet now as of like this month the cost is suddenly so onerous that everyone has to start paying an extortionate rate at the end of this month.
Good faith business arrangements are not typically changed with one months notice. And they is no plan for accessibility or mod tools or the backlash. They didn't even have time to couch the CEO on how to handle the questions in the AMA.
Idk I don't really buy it.
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They still have to host users, feeds, and comments which can add up very quickly. Also, they do host some images as well like when people upload to them.
Worth noting that for the 11 years, Reddit didn't host any images.
It's hard to say why Reddit thought it was necessary to host their own images.
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it used to rely on Imgur for hosting images, does it not anymore?
People still use imgur, but reddit hosts a fair amount of content directly now. It's video player is notoriously bad. Imgur has slowly turned into a socia media in it's own right and is slowly starting to move off reddit (deleting images uploaded by non-account holders for instance).
I was thinking Imgur could have pivoted and become like Reddit.
Imgur dev sold Imgur and now Imgur is becoming Tumblr lol
Doesn't mean they can't pivot.
They wanted to be the next Tiktok/Youtube Shorts/Instagram Reels and added expensive video hosting. Yay for ad impressions and mainstream adoption of mindless scrollers, but a good chance the costs drove up well beyond the influx of ad revenue/premium.
That and Reddit admins have to scrounge every penny to look pretty for their IPO.
and avatars, NFT support, chat groups, and.. and.. and..
Endless growth, without a use case.
What? You don't want stupid features that aren't really necessary and that most users wouldn't care if they were removed?
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