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The Squad Is About to Fight for Its Political Life (slate.com)
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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That entire article is nauseating.

A fucking group of psychopaths spending hundreds of millions of dollars in order to try to skew the elections so that they can more comfortably pursue their preferred pastimes of murdering Palestinian civilians, stealing their land and slurping up US taxpayer money.

How does anyone even live like that? Seriously - that's the thing I most don't get. How could any human being be such a reprehensible piece of shit that they can actually get up in the morning and spend their day trying to manipulate an election because they don't want the person who criticizes them for murdering civilians to win - they want to be able to murder civilians in peace? How do these people even live with themselves?

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can honestly say that one of the most astounding things I've learned as I've aged is the stupid amount of money people are willing to dump into politics. Sometimes I can see the ROI, but most times I'm flabbergasted at how much money these fucks are willing to simply piss into the wind.

[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even when I can see the ROI (I'm sure the money the Israeli government intends to leech from US taxpayers far outstrips the amount they'll spend to support politicians who can be counted on to vote in favor of it), I just can't understand the amorality of it all.

Are they all psychopaths? That's the conclusion I keep coming back to - that they're just psychologically defective, such that they just don't have any empathy or restraint or sense of shame - that they're as morally void as serial killers, and just exercise their evil in a somewhat different way.

No other explanation makes any sense. Anyone with even the tiniest shred of common decency would be unlikely to choose to do the things they do, and unable to live with themselves if they did, so it must be the case that they don't even have a shred of decency - that they're literal psychopaths.

I can't even imagine what it must be like to be that twisted and broken.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only way I can square it is to remind myself that the reason they were able to even accumulate that kind of wealth in the first place is that they're already morally bankrupt. I shouldn't expect them to change and stop fucking other people over when it's fucking people over that got them there. They're just more able to seal themselves off from the consequences of their actions when their estates get bigger and the neighborhood walls taller, and the rest of humanity fades away from their daily existence like the white noise on an antenna TV.

[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes.

I still don't even begin to understand how any human being could be so vile and repugnant, but yes - it's almost certainly the case that they got where they are through a lifetime of being vile and repugnant, so their current loathsomeness is just a continuation of a lifelong pattern.

And by the bye, that was notably well written. Kudos.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

The cruelty is the point.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A not insignificant, but small, percentage of humans are narcissist psychopaths. They hide it well enough to blend in day to day and continue to breed. They're in it only for themselves. They're drawn to power and therefore politics.

I'm not about eugenics. But if that ever comes back into fashion, I think this is the trait we should breed out.

[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

i would go so far as to say that eliminating the influence of psychopaths on civilization is the single most important thing we need to do for the survival of our species - that if we don't get all of these obviously profoundly mentally ill fucks out of their positions of power one way or another, nothing else we do is going to matter.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How does anyone even live like that? Seriously - that's the thing I most don't get. How could any human being be such a reprehensible piece of shit that they can actually get up in the morning and spend their day trying to manipulate an election because they don't want the person who criticizes them for murdering civilians to win - they want to be able to murder civilians in peace? How do these people even live with themselves?

Have you met humanity? We’re awful. We’re psychopaths and we’re only occasionally nice.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Oh cool - Israel, a foreign state that's currently working on a genocide are openly interfering with US domestic political operations, and noone seems to care enough to stop them.

Any influence is legitimate influence if you can afford it.

🌈Capitalism

[–] halfempty@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

I support the squad, and feel that they are the only ones in Congress that are even close to representing me. Powerful AIPAC and corporate billionaire money doesn't like them, and will use their money to silence anyone who challenges their power.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

There is no chance for progressive policies in the United States until corporate and foreign money is removed from politics, and I have a difficult time believing that will ever happen.