this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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... “[They] started asking me, ‘are you Eduardo are you Eduardo, put your hands behind your back you’re being detained.’”

But Manuel isn’t Eduardo. He says he asked for an attorney, but the questions continued and then the agents called Tucson Police to take over.

He says officers told him they have been looking for him since January of 2022 for a dispute with his spouse. None of the details made any sense to him, but he says they didn’t believe him and took him to jail.

“I asked to speak to an attorney when I arrived at the Pima County Jail. They said, ‘We don’t have that here for you; you won't be getting that here. … What is your name? You’re Eduardo aren’t you?’ I said that’s not my name, that’s not who I am. They said, ‘Well you can keep playing that game with us; we don't have time for you.’”

Marquez was put before a judge later that evening.

“And I told him what was going on, and he said: ‘I’m sorry, I can’t help you. I wish you the best of luck on your next court date,’” Marquez recalls.

He says he was not allowed a phone call and was kept in solitary confinement. Meanwhile, his family filed a missing person’s report with the Sheriff’s Department, which ran a check to see if he was in jail.

“The detective in charge assured my family I was not in the Pima County Jail. I could have been there for 10 years; they would have never found me because I was under someone else’s name.” ...

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[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Don't expect rights in Arizona if you're brown. Same for Texas or Florida.

[–] Shialac@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago